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Sad stuff.
Rest in Peace to the lost servicemen
Rest in Peace to the lost servicemen
Horrible.
RIP
So if the Caption was asleep when this happened (I'm pretty sure I read he was badly injured when the other ship hit) is he still held responsible for everything that happened?
The American Navy is on quite the roll as of late.. Lost boats, grounded boats and boat accidents what a shit show.
How is the Fijian Navy these days? Last time I was on an Aussie boat it was a brand new version of our 30 year old ships. And just imagine, it's US Americans who are teaching you and yours, to play a second fiddle Navy.
Yes. Ship/Crew safety is absolutely 100% the Commanding Officers responsibility. Anytime that someone is seriously injured of killed, or things like this, or running aground. At the end of the day, accident's get people killed and it has to be someone's responsibility.
Honestly they leave that much responsibility in the hands of kids. It was an 18-19 year old kid driving the boat when it happened. Lol they gave me an entire engine room to run and be responsible for while underway when I was 20 lol.
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A little insensitive to shit on the entire Navy when 7 sailors have lost their lives.
While I agree that this doesn't look good, we should probably wait for the investigation to conclude before assigning fault.
I feel for the poor Navy men/women who lost their lives but no one can deny there has been multiple mistakes made with American Navy boats over the last couple months.
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No navy in the world can compare to the power and might of the US Navy.
We have 10 aircraft carriers. The rest of the world combined has 9 or 10. We are also the only true blue-water navy. While other nations protect their borders, we patrol the world's oceans.
It would take multiple decades for any country to even come close to what we are capable of on the open seas.
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Apparently it is called a 'ballistic blow training maneuver'.
Ehime Maru and USS Greeneville collision - Wikipedia
Ehime Maru and USS Greeneville collision - Wikipedia
Wow, that whole incident was pretty irresponsible. I'm surprised the capt was still honorably discharged.
Theyre called emergency blows. Its quite an experience to be onboard for one.
Fiji doesn't have a blue water navy and its smack bang in the middle of the Pacific Ocean
container ship captain is apparently claiming that they werent on autopilot and signaled warnings after the fitzgerald changed course to cross in front of them but the destroyer was unresponsive... interesting;
Exclusive: U.S. warship stayed on deadly collision course despite warning - container ship captain
In the first detailed account from one of those directly involved, the cargo ship's captain said the ACX Crystal had signaled with flashing lights after the Fitzgerald "suddenly" steamed on to a course to cross its path.
The container ship steered hard to starboard (right) to avoid the warship, but hit the Fitzgerald 10 minutes later at 1:30 a.m., according to a copy of Captain Ronald Advincula's report to Japanese ship owner Dainichi Investment Corporation that was seen by Reuters.
Exclusive: U.S. warship stayed on deadly collision course despite warning - container ship captain
In the first detailed account from one of those directly involved, the cargo ship's captain said the ACX Crystal had signaled with flashing lights after the Fitzgerald "suddenly" steamed on to a course to cross its path.
The container ship steered hard to starboard (right) to avoid the warship, but hit the Fitzgerald 10 minutes later at 1:30 a.m., according to a copy of Captain Ronald Advincula's report to Japanese ship owner Dainichi Investment Corporation that was seen by Reuters.
Help me out here Navy dudes.
The US Destroyer was hit on the starboard side. And now we learn that the container ship steered hard to starboard to avoid the collision, but still t-boned the Destroyer 10 minutes later - does that add up?
I'm reading that as they noticed the problem, sounded alerts and turned hard to starboard. 10 minutes passed. Boom, they t-bone the destroyer.
If they had steered port - or just continued going straight - wouldn't they have missed the Destroyer entirely? 10 minutes is a long ass time.
Something just doesn't make sense. None of this makes sense.
Same side collision is strange.
That is correct. The container ship had damage to the port (left) bow. The Fitz to the Starboard (right) bow. Meaning that the Container ship had the right away. Imagine a 4 way stop. If your the container ship the fitz is on your left. If your the fitz the big ship is on the right. Fitz ran the stop sign and ACX Crytal went right to avoid the collision. Both sustained damage to the bow but was probably greatly reduced by the ACX Crystal crew veering right. They werent able to get out of the way in time. He turned to Starboard to avoid them but didnt have room. Usually though when they turn away from a collision the damage to the container can be more aft toward the stern.
We havent heard the Navy's version of the story so it will be interesting. Ships dont sail themselves and this does not add up.
@Chief your thoughts?Edit: It's hard to believe the ACX Crystals explanation. 10 min turn and still hit the Fitz bow to bow. it's like the Fitz wanted the collision.
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This is hard to imagine how this happened.That is correct. The container ship had damage to the port (left) bow. The Fitz to the Starboard (right) bow. Meaning that the Container ship had the right away. Imagine a 4 way stop. If your the container ship the fitz is on your left. If your the fitz the big ship is on the right. Fitz ran the stop sign and ACX Crytal went right to avoid the collision. Both sustained damage to the bow but was probably greatly reduced by the ACX Crystal crew veering right. They werent able to get out of the way in time. He turned to Starboard to avoid them but didnt have room. Usually though when they turn away from a collision the damage to the container can be more aft toward the stern.
We havent heard the Navy's version of the story so it will be interesting. Ships dont sail themselves and this does not add up.
I worked below decks in the engine room. But from what I remember of my ESWS training, I don't see how this happens without gross negligence on the Navy's part.
The Quartermaster, radar and sonar had to have seen this ship. Maybe too late for the forecastle and fantail lookouts, but they had to have seen it as well.
Not sure why the reaction time was so slow but from what I remember 10 minutes is plenty for a "crash back". Bacilly this class of ship can go from all head to full stop in 3 ship lenghts. Curious to hear from the Navy.
That's what has me puzzled. 10 minutes is a long ass time to be under alert. I know ships this size don't handle like your typical puddle jumper - but 10 minutes?
I would think a Destroyer could almost make a u turn in 10 minutes.