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An interview with
Antoine Dangerfield
An interview with Antoine Dangerfield, whose video of an Indianapolis wildcat strike went viral this week — and led to his firing. He doesn't regret it, though.

US labor history is full of moments of tremendous drama and upheaval. That history is riveting stuff, but getting a raw, unfiltered view of the human drama of workers fighting their bosses on the shop floor, the place where the day-to-day confrontation between workers and bosses takes place (and occasionally boils over), is rare.

Which is what makes Antoine Dangerfield’s recent viral video a must-watch. A thirty-year-old welder in Indianapolis, Dangerfield worked for a construction contractor building a UPS hub. On Tuesday, he says that a small number of Latino workers (millwrights, welders, and conveyor installers, in his telling) working for a different contractor but in the same hub were ordered home after disobeying the orders of a white boss he calls racist.

In response, the entire group of workers — over a hundred, in Dangerfield’s estimation — walked out.

Dangerfield caught their wildcat strike on camera at the moment they walked off the job. In his video, he is positively giddy watching them shut down their massive workplace.

“They are not bullshitting!” he says as Latino workers walk off. Referring to the boss, he says, “They thought they was gonna play with these amigos, and they said, ‘aw yeah, we rise together, homie.’ And they leaving! And they not bullshitting!”

After all the workers are gone, Dangerfield gives the viewer a tour of the empty hub. He’s incredulous: “Ain’t no grinding, cutting, welding — this motherfucker dead-ass quiet. The Mexicans shut this motherfucker down.”

Since he posted the video on Wednesday, the footage has been viewed millions of times on Facebook (two million) and YouTube (nearly eight hundred thousand) and on sites like WorldStarHipHop (three hundred thousand). It also, as he explains in this interview, led to his firing. Dangerfield thinks it’s worth it, though.

Jacobin managing editor Micah Uetricht spoke with Dangerfield on Thursday afternoon. Neither could track down the striking workers in the video, but Dangerfield spoke about what was a “life-changing” experience for him. The interview has been edited for clarity and brevity.

MU
Where do you work?

AD
It’s a contractor that’s doing a UPS superhub. They fired me about [the video], though.

MU
Really?

AD
They’re real mad about it. They tried to pay me $250 to take it down. But there’s nothing I could do about it. I didn’t expect it to be this big.

MU
So what happened?

AD
There was a safety guy. He was just a racist, basically — always messing with anybody who’s not white. The Hispanics just stayed out of his way. They warned each other when he came because they knew he was always messing with them, taking pictures and videos, trying to get them fired.

We have safety meetings, and we usually have a translator [for Spanish speakers] because there are so many. On Tuesday, we had a safety meeting, and like I said, the Mexicans don’t really like [the safety coordinator].

He asked one of the Mexicans to come up and translate. He didn’t wanna do it. [The coordinator] got mad, real red-faced. Next thing you know, he dismissed the meeting. So he’s walking around just sending them home, trying to fire them. So he sent like five or six of them home.

So the Hispanics got together and were like, “Nah. We got families and kids. We’re not about to let these dudes just do whatever.” So they took a stand.

MU
Do they have a union?

AD
Nah. They just decided today’s the day. They fired the [safety coordinator], though. And they fired me, too, for the video. But there wasn’t one [worker] left in the building.

MU
How long had there been issues with the safety guy?

AD
As soon as he started. It’s been three or four months. I’ve been there since January.

MU
So what happened when the video went up?

AD
The owners of [the construction contractors] came down, corporate people from UPS.

MU
From UPS?!

AD
That’s what people were telling me. Because I went back to pick up my last check and my welding gear. That was when they offered me $250 to take it down. It was at 1.1 million views on Facebook at that point. So there was nothing I could do.

I was shocked. I come in here every day. The last video I posted got two likes! I wasn’t trying to harm anybody.

MU
How did you feel watching them walk off the job?

AD
I just felt that power, man. It just felt good. They were walking out with their heads up, strong. It touched me. That’s why I was like, wow, this is beautiful. It was beautiful that they came together like that — stood up for themselves and not let that dude walk all over them.

MU
Have you had that experience at work, feeling walked all over?

AD
I stay out of their way. I just work. I don’t get involved with management usually. I just come in and get my check. And they just offered me a team lead job and everything. I was there every day and thought everything was cool. If I hadn’t posted the video, I would still be there working.

I had just come back from California in December. In January, I came back home because my son is here. He didn’t like me being gone — he had a hard time with it. So I decided to get something local, close to my dude. Because he loves me, you know what I mean?

MU
You said the workers walked off the job with their heads up.

AD
Yeah. It was powerful, bro. They were proud of themselves, like they’re supposed to be. But [management] still paid everybody for the whole day. That’s how you know they were wrong. They sent everybody home, but I stayed until the end, because I was in awe.

MU
Have you ever had an experience with that kind of action before?

AD
Never. It was like the Million Man March or something. You heard me in the video — I was excited.

MU
You’re black. The people you filmed in the video are Latino. You said in the description of your video that black people need to learn something from this. What did you mean?

AD
All the hate going on — we need to stick together. I think black people are moving in the right direction. We were down for a minute with the crack era. And you see the news, a lot of killings in the black community. Sometimes we don’t come together. But if they can do it, we can do it. And we can all come together. There’s power in numbers.

I don’t like racist anything. I don’t like people picking on people, bullying. It’s ridiculous. So when people come together, it’s a beautiful thing.

MU
They were specifically taking on a boss, taking action on the job.

AD
Yeah, and you can use that in any way. Votes, we could show up for. Or all corporations that have done you wrong.

We’re the ones, the workers — we make the heads get rich. Treating us lesser than isn’t even cool. We’re the reason the hub was getting built. Ain’t no owners out there in their hard hats. We’re the ones putting our life on the line. So you gotta respect us.

They’re a cool company. I don’t really have anything against them. But when you see wrong being done, you should step up and do something about it.

MU
There’s what was happening at your workplace, but then there’s the state of the economy as a whole.

AD
Yeah, and it can be on that scale. [The video] is funny or whatever, but people love seeing people come together like that. That’s why it’s so viral. Because everybody wants that deep down. Everybody wants to move as one. That’s why you look at the comments [on the video] and see black people saying, “Yeah, that’s what we need to do.”

MU
Do you think this experience will change you, on the job in the future?

AD
You can say that. It was life-changing to me to see that happen. Because it was like, dang, they really came together. And that’s why I’m not mad about the video, about getting fired. Because it’s five million people who saw that. And it might change their view on things. Empowering people.

So me losing a job is nothing compared to the big picture. If we can get it in our heads that we are the people, and if we make our numbers count, we can change anything.
 

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We have safety meetings, and we usually have a translator [for Spanish speakers] because there are so many. On Tuesday, we had a safety meeting, and like I said, the Mexicans don’t really like [the safety coordinator].

He asked one of the Mexicans to come up and translate. He didn’t wanna do it. [The coordinator] got mad, real red-faced. Next thing you know, he dismissed the meeting. So he’s walking around just sending them home, trying to fire them. So he sent like five or six of them home.

I know I definintely wouldn't stand for a safety meeting! Especially one delivered in two languages! Shut it down!
 

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Had so many awesome fights with QA/ health and safety.

A friend of mine was the best. He scared the shit out of everyone anyway (got that serial killer vibe going)

Whenever QA came in our area he would go right up to them in thier face asking what they want? I'll help you tell you what u need.

Eventually they would just fuck off.

Cocksucker's used to write us up for everything. We'd We' it to thier suggested action, then two months later the cocksuckers would write us up again for the shit they told us to do.

Bunch of grassing jobsworth cunts
 
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I know I definintely wouldn't stand for a safety meeting! Especially one delivered in two languages! Shut it down!
They're not getting paid to be translators. Why should they have to do shit they're not getting paid to do?
 

Splinty

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Had so many awesome fights with QA/ health and safety.

A friend of mine was the best. He scared the shit out of everyone anyway (got that serial killer vibe going)

Whenever QA came in our area he would go right up to them in thier face asking what they want? I'll help you tell you what u need.

Eventually they would just fuck off.

Cocksucker's used to write us up for everything. We'd We' it to thier suggested action, then two months later the cocksuckers would write us up again for the shit they told us to do.

Bunch of grassing jobsworth cunts

So what exactly did they do wrong other their jobs making sure you weren't killing yourself and others?
 
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Agreed. shut it down, that racist asshole!
We certainly don't know for sure if the safety inspector is racist, or even whether or not he was fired and whether all the employees who walked off really got paid for a full day of work, but...

Assuming all the things the story are true, don't you think the employees were justified in walking off the job?
 

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So what exactly did they do wrong other their jobs making sure you weren't killing yourself and others?
It was for stupid shit like putting used gum in the wrong trash can. Forgetting to sign a log the day before.

Basically they would file a CAR (corrective action report)

They issued us 6 in a week I think once. Because it was a big company I worked for we would often have people pass through for a week or two from other sites, one engineer I was talking to said "didn't you guys get a CAR last week?"

I said, "we get them every fucking week"

He said " fuck. If there is a CAR raised on our site the entire place goes into a lockdown and the whole workforce is assembled to rectify it. There's only ever been one, what did you guys do?"

I said" forgot to lock the toolbox when we went to lunch"
 

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^im not shitting you. It's a system designed to alert a major incident. I think they wrote me up one time for having zipties in my desk and not in the designated zip tie tubing ten feet away. Cocksucker's
 

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Yeah, because firing someone for not wanting to translate is the appropriate response.
If you're the person that's bought the building, paid for the equipment, ensured there's sales that'll keep the place running, & pay the guy's wages at the very minimum. When this exchange happens

management: "I know you're being paid to do nothing but hold the chairs down right now, but can you come up here & say what this guy said in a different language?"
employee: "No."

With a 99.999999999999999999999999% certainty you know you're not losing a very valuable employee
 

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there is an easy solution to make sure this never happens again. do not hire anyone who doesn't speak english
 
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They're not getting paid to be translators. Why should they have to do shit they're not getting paid to do?
Maybe it's just been my experience but sometimes I did things I wasn't paid to do because I could see it would just make everything go smoother.
I don't see the point in balking at any task as long as it's safe if I'm in an hourly-wage situation.
 

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Maybe it's just been my experience but sometimes I did things I wasn't paid to do because I could see it would just make everything go smoother.
I don't see the point in balking at any task as long as it's safe if I'm in an hourly-wage situation.
You're hired.
 

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Maybe it's just been my experience but sometimes I did things I wasn't paid to do because I could see it would just make everything go smoother.
I don't see the point in balking at any task as long as it's safe if I'm in an hourly-wage situation.
I'm just about to fix something that isn't really my job. But only because it's irritating me
 

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Yeah, because firing someone for not wanting to translate is the appropriate response.
Taking the story at face value...



Mexicans don't like the guy because they perceive him as racist.

He asked for assistance making sure said Mexicans get their safety brief in a way they can understand it, so they don't die on the job. This is apparently the standard before today, but today the guy "doesn't want to do it."

Guy refuses to assist because he doesn't like safety manager.

Safety guy ends the meeting and start sending various people home after the fact. There's punitive nature there, but it's also likely due to safety violations that give him said power to send them home.

This is not an example of rising up against the man. This is a very petty HR squabble framed as such.

If everybody did get paid for their days wages, it implies no wrongdoing either. That's an easy buy off.

All that happened is the cameraman and a safety manager gets fired? I lose part of a day of wages?

Man if I'm the owner that's the easiest call in the world.


Guy is an asshole.
Mexicans are assholes back to him.
He raises the asshole level.
Mexicans walk off job site.
 

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Taking the story at face value...



Mexicans don't like the guy because they perceive him as racist.

He asked for assistance making sure said Mexicans get their safety brief in a way they can understand it, so they don't die on the job. This is apparently the standard before today, but today the guy "doesn't want to do it."

Guy refuses to assist because he doesn't like safety manager.

Safety guy ends the meeting and start sending various people home after the fact. There's punitive nature there, but it's also likely due to safety violations that give him said power to send them home.

This is not an example of rising up against the man. This is a very petty HR squabble framed as such.

If everybody did get paid for their days wages, it implies no wrongdoing either. That's an easy buy off.

All that happened is the cameraman and a safety manager gets fired? I lose part of a day of wages?

Man if I'm the owner that's the easiest call in the world.


Guy is an asshole.
Mexicans are assholes back to him.
He raises the asshole level.
Mexicans walk off job site.

It wasn't a case of them translating in the past, it's quite clear that a translator was provided in the past, and it should be the worksite's obligation to provide a translator if they want to hire people that don't speak English. Racist guy wants to cut corners to save money and make one of the welders/grinders work a job they are not being paid for, they refuse, he tries to fire them, but the rest of the Mexican workforce show solidarity together. It's not being an arsehole to not do work you aren't getting paid for. Wage theft is a massive crime committed against the American worker every day that goes unpunished, almost completely.

Here is a chart to give you an idea of the problem. The report it is from is linked below.

https://www.nelp.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/BrokenLawsReport2009.pdf?nocdn=1

What is being an arsehole is firing the cameraman for showing the world a wildcat strike, and showing the rest of American workers what they can accomplish when they stand together. Without that solidarity 6 of their co-workers would have lost their job.
 

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It wasn't a case of them translating in the past, it's quite clear that a translator was provided in the past, and it should be the worksite's obligation to provide a translator if they want to hire people that don't speak English. Racist guy wants to cut corners to save money and make one of the welders/grinders work a job they are not being paid for, they refuse, he tries to fire them, but the rest of the Mexican workforce show solidarity together. It's not being an arsehole to not do work you aren't getting paid for. Wage theft is a massive crime committed against the American worker every day that goes unpunished, almost completely.

Here is a chart to give you an idea of the problem. The report it is from is linked below.

https://www.nelp.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/BrokenLawsReport2009.pdf?nocdn=1

What is being an arsehole is firing the cameraman for showing the world a wildcat strike, and showing the rest of American workers what they can accomplish when they stand together. Without that solidarity 6 of their co-workers would have lost their job.
keep an eye out for Zeph folks, he's going places
 

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