A Cold Case Expert Thinks 'Making A Murderer' May Be Tied To One Of The Most Prolific Serial Killers

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jason73

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One of the most frustrating questions regarding the death of Teresa Halbach in Netflix’s crime documentary Making A Murderer is “If Steven Avery didn’t kill her, who did?” We’ve heard a couple of theories offered up by internet sleuths and Steven Avery himself, but there’s been nothing very conclusive – partially because the police did such a terrible job of following leads once they’d decided Avery was the killer. But former police sergeant and FBI cold case task force worker John Cameron thinks he knows who did it.

According to Cameron, Edward Wayne Edwards was a serial killer that liked to set other people up for the crimes he committed and was obsessed with the media attention surrounding murder. Sometimes he would pick victims based on reports he read in newspapers. Other times his target would be the person being set up for murder, with the victim being almost inconsequential.

Officially, Edwards has been convicted of five deaths from 1977 to 1996, including the murder of his adopted son for insurance money. But there’s a growing body of investigators that believe he is responsible for some of the biggest unsolved murder cases in American history, including the Zodiac killings, the West Memphis Three, Chandra Levy, and Jon Benet Ramsey. Now Cameron believes Edwards may have something to do with Teresa Halbach’s death as well.
What ties Edwards to all these cases? Location, letters to press/police/families of victims, and blogs written by Ed Edwards himself. His daughter, who was the one who ended up turning him in to the authorities, has also put forward information linking Edwards to more murders than he was officially tried for.

Here are some things that may make you go hmmm when considering Cameron’s theory that Edwards killed Halbach:

  • Several of Edward Wayne Edwards’ past victims were murdered on Halloween night. Teresa Halbach disappeared on Halloween night.
  • Edwards had killed in Wisconsin before: In 1980, Edwards mudered Timothy Hack and Kelly Drew in what was later dubbed the Sweetheart Slayings.
  • Edwards was living about an hour away from Steven Avery at the time of the murder.
  • Avery’s new lawyer Kathleen Zellner has already freed one of the men wrongfully convicted of a crime Cameron attributes to Ed Edwards – Ryan Ferguson spent nearly 10 years in jail for the death of Columbia Daily Tribune sports editor Kent Heith. That murder went down on Halloween night.
  • Edwards has a history of showing up at funerals and trials of his victims. Cameron contends he’s been caught on camera doing this a few times, appearing in the background of a documentary on the West Memphis Three. As for the Halbach case, take a look at someone Cameron noticed in episode six of Making A Murderer:

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Was this Edward Wayne Edwards? Cameron has spent time in Wisconsin trying to determine the mystery individual’s identity, with no luck so far.

If you thought the people out there fighting to determine Avery’s innocence or guilt are hardcore, wait until you wade into the section of the internet devoted to serial killer theories. There are endless message boards crammed with opinions, theories, and suppositions made by all sorts of people about every case ever left unsolved. Cameron makes some solid arguments and has a legit background in police investigation, but it’s hard to ignore the fact that he’s accusing one man of literally over a hundred murders.

I mean, just look at his website, which declares with no uncertainty that “EDWARDS IS THE KILLER OF TERESA HALBACH AND SET-UP OF STEVEN AVERY AND BRENDAN DASSEY.” Well, that’s, like, just your opinion, man. The rest of us would like a few more hard facts to back this up before we go all in on this theory. And when someone is willing to throw so much certainty behind one claim we know isn’t for sure, how are we supposed to give him the benefit of the doubt in anything else he says?

But the further you go down the rabbit hole, the harder it gets to ignore certain evidence unearthed by Cameron. For more information, you can check out Cameron’s book, listen to some of his appearances on crime podcasts, or take a look at this website which attempts to summarize the evidence that ties Edwards to his many alleged crimes.
 

SNIDELY WHIPLASH

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Bravo thread dude. I'm anti-conspiracy theory to the max but this is extra interesting. The proximity alone is enough to elicit some hmmmms
 

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It's really interesting stuff, but people have a fascination with serial killers, so much so that they almost idealise them..movies has shown them to us too often as criminal masterminds..I'm truth, they are not lecter-esque in their eloquence or their smarts.
I think this fbi guy is making a lot of buzz to sell his book.
 

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But there’s a growing body of investigators that believe he is responsible for some of the biggest unsolved murder cases in American history, including the Zodiac killings, the West Memphis Three, Chandra Levy, and Jon Benet Ramsey.
Insanity. Are there any documentaries out there on this guy?
 

SNIDELY WHIPLASH

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It's really interesting stuff, but people have a fascination with serial killers, so much so that they almost idealise them..movies has shown them to us too often as criminal masterminds..I'm truth, they are not lecter-esque in their eloquence or their smarts.
I think this fbi guy is making a lot of buzz to sell his book.
They do go overboard in how smart they portray these guys. A lot of times they are just people not on the radar so they get away with it for a time.
 

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They do go overboard in how smart they portray these guys. A lot of times they are just people not on the radar so they get away with it for a time.
Yeah they are also insane, so killing is mostly what all their brainpower focuses towards.
 

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This dude claims EWE is responsible for almost every famous murder case in America. Claiming he is responsible for the West Memphis Three, Zodiac Killings, amongst others, yet only has one picture as evidence for the West Memphis Three of an old man that looks nothing like EWE, and doesn't mention what evidence he has for the others.

The only 'evidence' he has for the MAM case is, again, one picture of a fat old guy, who doesn't look anything like EWE - jaw structure, nose, hair colour, none of which match - and that EWE has killed in Wisconsin before. That's it. His explanation for blowing up TH is laughable, it would not create the type of cremated remains which he is claiming.

Frankly, this guy has a book that he is trying to sell and MAM is hot right now, so he will claim it was done by EWE to try and push book sales.
 

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This dude claims EWE is responsible for almost every famous murder case in America. Claiming he is responsible for the West Memphis Three, Zodiac Killings, amongst others, yet only has one picture as evidence for the West Memphis Three of an old man that looks nothing like EWE, and doesn't mention what evidence he has for the others.

The only 'evidence' he has for the MAM case is, again, one picture of a fat old guy, who doesn't look anything like EWE - jaw structure, nose, hair colour, none of which match - and that EWE has killed in Wisconsin before. That's it. His explanation for blowing up TH is laughable, it would not create the type of cremated remains which he is claiming.

Frankly, this guy has a book that he is trying to sell and MAM is hot right now, so he will claim it was done by EWE to try and push book sales.
 

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This dude claims EWE is responsible for almost every famous murder case in America. Claiming he is responsible for the West Memphis Three, Zodiac Killings, amongst others, yet only has one picture as evidence for the West Memphis Three of an old man that looks nothing like EWE, and doesn't mention what evidence he has for the others.

The only 'evidence' he has for the MAM case is, again, one picture of a fat old guy, who doesn't look anything like EWE - jaw structure, nose, hair colour, none of which match - and that EWE has killed in Wisconsin before. That's it. His explanation for blowing up TH is laughable, it would not create the type of cremated remains which he is claiming.

Frankly, this guy has a book that he is trying to sell and MAM is hot right now, so he will claim it was done by EWE to try and push book sales.
great post & agree. saw this awhile back & read up on the john cameron. he profits by pinning all these cold cases on this one guy. books, radio spots, etc. interesting to look into for sure, but don't think there is much there. not sure when the alleged courthouse pic was taken, but he looked pretty frail during his last couple years & was in a wheelchair IIRC.

according to cameron, EWE was a serial killer @ age 11 & he pins the elizabeth short murder on edwards who would have been 12-13 @ the time. considering the brutality of her murder, it's highly unlikely it was him imho.

good thread though. love this kind of stuff.

Insanity. Are there any documentaries out there on this guy?
no docs, but there are quite a few radio interviews with john cameron re: EWE.



Published on Aug 10, 2014
On this edition of DTRH Popeye welcomes to the broadcast Cold Case Detective John A. Cameron to discuss serial killer Edward Wayne Edwards. John is a 53 year old retired police detective from Great Falls, Montana. His career in law enforcement began in 1979. He retired in 2005 as a sergeant of detectives, working cold cases. He has worked on FBI serial killer task forces, been featured on America’s Most Wanted, Dateline NBC, and he helped produce a series known as ‘Most Evil’ on TruTV. In 2010, while working as an analyst for the Montana Board of Pardons and Parole in Deer Lodge Prison, Montana, he was in a position to access information that had been kept secret for 55 years, unraveling the most intelligent serial killer ever. Could Edwards be responsible for the murders of the Black Dahlia, JonBenét Ramsey, The West Memphis Three, The Zodiac Killer, and many more? Tune in to find out.
 

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regarding the black dahlia murder...

did a little more digging on this guy's site & cameron is claiming that this is a pic of a 13 year old EWE with short in 1947: 1933-1949 - Cold Case Cameron



when searching for that^ pic it comes up as joseph gordon fickling, a known associate of short's @ the time & who is from OH. It was also said that the "boy demanding a bathtub" was thought to be early 20s.



that's not EWE @ 13 with elizabeth short in the above pic (imho).

& it's unlikely that a 13 year old boy would be capable of the kind of brutality that was involved in short's murder. her murder was either personal, or some satanic shit imho. he also claims it wasn't his first kill & points @ two other gruesome murders that would have taken place when EWE was 11.

hard for me to believe that he is being sincere here. seems like he is trying to pin all the popular cold cases on EWE because he is his cash cow.
 

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This dude claims EWE is responsible for almost every famous murder case in America. Claiming he is responsible for the West Memphis Three, Zodiac Killings, amongst others, yet only has one picture as evidence for the West Memphis Three of an old man that looks nothing like EWE, and doesn't mention what evidence he has for the others.

The only 'evidence' he has for the MAM case is, again, one picture of a fat old guy, who doesn't look anything like EWE - jaw structure, nose, hair colour, none of which match - and that EWE has killed in Wisconsin before. That's it. His explanation for blowing up TH is laughable, it would not create the type of cremated remains which he is claiming.

Frankly, this guy has a book that he is trying to sell and MAM is hot right now, so he will claim it was done by EWE to try and push book sales.
You know a lot about serial killers and police methods there boss. Anything you don't want to share?
 

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This dude claims EWE is responsible for almost every famous murder case in America. Claiming he is responsible for the West Memphis Three, Zodiac Killings, amongst others, yet only has one picture as evidence for the West Memphis Three of an old man that looks nothing like EWE, and doesn't mention what evidence he has for the others.

The only 'evidence' he has for the MAM case is, again, one picture of a fat old guy, who doesn't look anything like EWE - jaw structure, nose, hair colour, none of which match - and that EWE has killed in Wisconsin before. That's it. His explanation for blowing up TH is laughable, it would not create the type of cremated remains which he is claiming.

Frankly, this guy has a book that he is trying to sell and MAM is hot right now, so he will claim it was done by EWE to try and push book sales.
I thought the same thing. Any inside info on this Kathreen Zellner super lawyer lady?