General About Free will and determinism

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BeardOfKnowledge

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Jul 22, 2015
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Yes we make conscious choices
Determinism precludes conscious choices.

Saying that circumstances inform your decisions is compatibilism.

by the way "Will" as per Merriam-Webster:

2—used to express desire, choice, willingness, consent, or in negative constructions refusal
 

Toelocku

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Dec 15, 2018
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Determinism precludes conscious choices.

Saying that circumstances inform your decisions is compatibilism.

by the way "Will" as per Merriam-Webster:
"Stanford
Compatibilism

First published Mon Apr 26, 2004; substantive revision Wed Feb 25, 2015
Compatibilism offers a solution to the free will problem, which concerns a disputed incompatibility between free will and determinism. Compatibilism is the thesis that free will is compatible with determinism. Because free will is typically taken to be a necessary condition of moral responsibility, compatibilism is sometimes expressed as a thesis about the compatibility between moral responsibility and determinism"


As ive said "free will" doesnt exist so i cant be a compatiblist
 

BeardOfKnowledge

The Most Consistent Motherfucker You Know
Jul 22, 2015
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"Stanford
Compatibilism

First published Mon Apr 26, 2004; substantive revision Wed Feb 25, 2015
Compatibilism offers a solution to the free will problem, which concerns a disputed incompatibility between free will and determinism. Compatibilism is the thesis that free will is compatible with determinism. Because free will is typically taken to be a necessary condition of moral responsibility, compatibilism is sometimes expressed as a thesis about the compatibility between moral responsibility and determinism"


As ive said "free will" doesnt exist so i cant be a compatiblist
Except it can't be demonstrated and you keep talking about making choices.
 

Toelocku

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Dec 15, 2018
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If it's predetermined, it's not a choice.

It's honestly shocking how little you know about determinism for someone who claims to be all in on it.
Whats shocking is how youre getting owned and have no self awareness about it

I am choosing to make this post but my choice has been predetermined through countless cause and effect circumstances

You seem to think thats a contradiction...guess what ITS NOT
 

BeardOfKnowledge

The Most Consistent Motherfucker You Know
Jul 22, 2015
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Whats shocking is how youre getting owned and have no self awareness about it

I am choosing to make this post but my choice has been predetermined through countless cause and effect circumstances

You seem to think thats a contradiction...guess what ITS NOT
Not if determinism exists.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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Jul 22, 2015
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I explain this shit in the op did you not read it as usual?
It doesn't say anything about it in the OP.

Determinism precludes an individual from making conscious choices. They think they're making decisions, but they aren't. They're simply victims of the momentum of their lives.
 

Toelocku

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It doesn't say anything about it in the OP.

Determinism precludes an individual from making conscious choices. They think they're making decisions, but they aren't. They're simply victims of the momentum of their lives.
Where are u getting this?