Adesanya says Jon Jones was great when USADA wasn’t around

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    The ongoing beef between interim UFC middleweight champion Israel Adesanya and current light heavyweight champion Jon Jones continues.

    Jones’ split decision win over Thiago Santos this past weekend at UFC 239 drew criticism from the interim champ, with Adesanya stating ‘Bones’ was a great fighter before strict anti-doping rules came into the UFC.

    “I saw him live, he doesn’t have it,” Adesanya said when he appeared on Ariel Helwani’s MMA Show this week. “He was great when he was fighting and there wasn’t USADA around, but now, the man needs to get back on the pictograms if he wants to be great again.”

    Israel Adesanya says Jon Jones was great when ‘there wasn’t USADA around,’ Jones responds
     
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    I’m beginning to like this guy.
     
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    Seemed like a real friendly and likable person when I saw him around LV last week. Also a huge fan of the sport. He was at all the ufc events in the crowd and him and KGB were the only 2 fighters I recognized that stayed for the entire Hall Of Fame induction ceremony.
     
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    Very cool to hear
     
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    Meh. I like fighting. Not talking. Ben was a great talker.
     
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    like usada matters to jones. he has the golden ticket to piss hot whenever he wants and the ufc,usada,dana,novitzky will all make exuses why he didnt really piss hot no matter what the test results are
     
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    Israel Adesnya:

    - Has yet to defend his fake belt

    - Tries to create beef/trash talk literally the nicest guy in MMA Robert Whittaker

    - Constantly talks shit about a man 20 pounds heavier than him (being conservative), a man whose list of MMA accomplishments far outweigh anything Adesanya has done in life

    Yeah he's a real likeable guy.
     
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    That's a real hot take there Israel.... Insinuating that Jon Jones was using PED's when they weren't doing testing... Wow.... I also heard that he mentioned that the Diaz brothers may possibly partake in cannabis products too :rolleyes:
     
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    You shut your whore mouth! The Diaz brothers would never do such a thing!
     
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    fuck it. i would watch jon jones mop the floor with israel adesanya . it would be a fucking slaughter. jon is too big for the rest of the guys at 205 .he would tower over israel. all that fancy shit aint going to do shit when jon has a 10 inch reach advantage and is 30 lbs heavier on fight night .
     
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    Not to mention, he would likely be very slow with that extra weight. Fighters love not cutting weight, but in most cases their movement suffers when moving up a class. Conor at 170, for instance. Anthony Johnson seems to be one of the few who enjoyed success at 205 after moving up (two classes, no less). I think Adesanya would become a lizard at 205. He might stab his tongue in Jon's eye from 10 feet away, but I don't see him avoiding the clinch for longer than a round.

    Now, he might become a success at 205 if he naturally grows into it, which he initially said he wanted to do. But now it seems he feels obligated to chase a semi-super fight against Jon ASAP, which would put the fight early next year. Only Cormier could put a fly in that ointment, unless Israel priced himself out of the deal when it comes time to negotiate.

    Of course all this is contingent on him beating Whitaker, which I have a hard time believing after seeing Whitaker's athleticism against Yoel. Rob ought to be able to crack Izzy hard and often...
     
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    this right here. if he gradually moved up and competed successfully at lhw for a while first he might have a chance. to come up this early in his career and directly challenge jon jones for the title in his first fight at lhw is suicidal. he could get there one day as jones gets older and israel reached his prime .right now he would get mangled though
     
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    First round of that beef went to Whittaker 10-8 when he said to Adesanya ''I'm sorry I posted a meme about you''
     
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    Looking at the LHW division. Can anyone give me a reason why these 2 shouldn't fight?
     
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    Until Jones and DC fight at LHW. The LHW title will be a fake belt in perpetuity.
     
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    Jones is the lineal champ, so yeah no
     
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    He won a vacant belt, so yeah no.
     
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    The guy who vacated it lost to Jon.

    At 205
     
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    the lineal champ successfully defended it after Jon was caught cheating in his attempt to defeat the lineal champ.

    Lineal Champ is Lineal Champ.
     
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    Whittaker isn't the nicest guy in MMA and I actually think Adesanya comes across as a pretty decent bloke outside his shtick.

    Guys like Demian Maia seem like the genuinely nice guys in the sport. Bobby Knucks is of course a cool enough guy but just because ge doesn't talk trash, doesn't mean he is all that friendly. Comes across as the killer that he is to me.

    Foreigners seem to mistake the "no-nonsense" Aussie bogan persona - which is a deliberate cultural myth that is perpetuated and thus adopted by people - for Aussies being nice.

    Americans, Canadians and Kiwis are, in an obvious generalization, more friendly than Australians, with only your average Brit (the dads of us all) more likely to be a cunt than your average Aussie.
     
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    100% correct.
     
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    As I said, it's a paper title in perpetuity.
     
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    This is possible. I love his no-nonsense, I-will-kill-you-in-the-cage attitude. It may never help him sell PPVs, but it'll endear him to the hardcore fans.

    I don't think Americans are nice. We're generally a bigoted, ignorant people. But it depends on region. Southerners, for example, are some of the nicest people in the world, while people from NYC/NJ/southern Connecticut are the lowest form of human beings on the planet.

    Canadians are just like Americans, but they're way nicer. It's almost all the population that is polite. Even Windsor scum. It's really quite remarkable.

    Kiwis are just Australians who replace every vowel with the letter "i".
     
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    Nuh uh
     
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