Aljamain had both feet and one knee down. Nowadays, its not technically a 3 point system. Its the referees call - subjective per the writeup below
But my main point is thst my post above is probably moot. I dony think there was ever a 4 point system, so petr shouldve known not to knee
The Association of Boxing Commissions website defines a downed fighter as, “A grounded opponent is any fighter who has more than just the soles of their feet on the ground. (i.e. could have one shin or one finger down to be considered a downed fighter) If the referee determines that a fighter would be a grounded fighter, but is not solely because the ring ropes or cage fence has held fighter from the ground, the referee can instruct the combatants that he is treating the fighter held up solely by the cage or ropes as a grounded fighter.”
The wording of the rule and the rule’s intent has not changed, but the way the rule is interpreted and enforced has.
“The rule is really the same,” said Ratner. “The interpretation that we’ve come up with, with the Association of Boxing Commissions, which should be called the Association of Combat Commissions – they should change that – but the spirit of the rule has been violated by a lot of fighters.
“Obviously if you’re downed and you have a hand on the deck, and you have three points there and you get kicked or kneed, that’s a foul,” he said. “But we have fighters now who are putting their hand down, bringing it up, putting it back down again.
“I call it, if you’re talking basketball, trying to draw the foul. They’re hoping that the referee will see it and call a foul and maybe disqualify the other guy,” added Ratner. “So we’re telling the referees before the fights, go into the dressing rooms and say, ‘look, if you do this you’re doing it at your own peril and in my judgment as a referee, if you’re doing it, I’m going to call it legal.’”
It is now up to the referee’s discretion whether or not a kick or knee to a “downed” fighter is illegal.
“It’s a judgment call,” said Ratner.
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@jason73 or actually no forget them.
@Sex Chicken can you opine?? Is there any place where you need 3 or 4 points of contsct to the ground for it to be illegal?
