General Billionaire cries over 2% wealth tax

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Toelocku

Nationalist Populist
Dec 15, 2018
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Why not $51mm?
Or $49mm?

I believe that's what he meant by arbitrary.
Because that amount of revenue in taxation would pay for all the needs and a lot of wants

To much money in one person's hands is very destructive
 

Hauler

Unknown Member
Feb 3, 2016
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This country has a fascination with vilifying rich people. The fact is their success has little to do with other people's failures.

In 2018, the richest 1409 taxpayers paid more income tax than the bottom 70 million people.

That tells me 2 things.
  1. There are some rich ass motherfuckers out there.
  2. And it certainly looks like they are paying way more than their fair share.
I'm more concerned with how the government spends tax money than I am about who is contributing.
If we force the rich to pay even more money - that money will largely be pissed away on stupid bullshit or simply pocketed by politicians.
 

Hauler

Unknown Member
Feb 3, 2016
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To much money in one person's hands is very destructive
As is giving people money for doing absolutely nothing.

If we're talking about improving schools and creating a better, smarter workforce - I'm all ears.
Developing pathways for people to become self-sufficient members of society? Great.

But we need to fix the government before any of that shit is actually going to happen. Giving politicians more tax dollars to piss away solves absolutely nothing.
 

ConorMcGregorsBeard

Stewart Era Liberal
Jul 22, 2015
33,043
31,943
This country has a fascination with vilifying rich people. The fact is their success has little to do with other people's failures.

In 2018, the richest 1409 taxpayers paid more income tax than the bottom 70 million people.

That tells me 2 things.
  1. There are some rich ass motherfuckers out there.
  2. And it certainly looks like they are paying way more than their fair share.
I'm more concerned with how the government spends tax money than I am about who is contributing.
If we force the rich to pay even more money - that money will largely be pissed away on stupid bullshit or simply pocketed by politicians.
I'm always confused at why people seem so opposed to a flat tax rate.
 

Toelocku

Nationalist Populist
Dec 15, 2018
3,439
3,367
This country has a fascination with vilifying rich people. The fact is their success has little to do with other people's failures.

In 2018, the richest 1409 taxpayers paid more income tax than the bottom 70 million people.

That tells me 2 things.
  1. There are some rich ass motherfuckers out there.
  2. And it certainly looks like they are paying way more than their fair share.
I'm more concerned with how the government spends tax money than I am about who is contributing.
If we force the rich to pay even more money - that money will largely be pissed away on stupid bullshit or simply pocketed by politicians.
Of course they pay more they have more but over time they are getting richer by using tax dodges/cuts
 

Hauler

Unknown Member
Feb 3, 2016
26,798
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Of course they pay more they have more but over time they are getting richer by using tax dodges/cuts
It's no secret that making money is easier when you have money - but they aren't getting richer simply because of tax cuts.
That's low hanging fruit for tax-the-rich political rhetoric.

Politicians want more money to play with so they point the finger at the people who have the money and make them out to be bad people.
They aren't bad people.
They're successful people.

Sure some of them were born on 3rd base in the baseball game of life - but whatever. Good for them. They were lucky enough to slide out of the right vagina on their birthday. It has zero impact on me and who I am. Focusing on life's imbalances isn't healthy. If people don't like their situation in life - they should work towards changing it.
 

kneeblock

Don't it always seem to go
Apr 18, 2015
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This country has a fascination with vilifying rich people. The fact is their success has little to do with other people's failures.

In 2018, the richest 1409 taxpayers paid more income tax than the bottom 70 million people.

That tells me 2 things.
  1. There are some rich ass motherfuckers out there.
  2. And it certainly looks like they are paying way more than their fair share.
I'm more concerned with how the government spends tax money than I am about who is contributing.
If we force the rich to pay even more money - that money will largely be pissed away on stupid bullshit or simply pocketed by politicians.
Hauler, I've seen you post a lot of smart things on this forum, so do you want to think this post over and come back tomorrow to tell us why it might be a disaster?
 

kneeblock

Don't it always seem to go
Apr 18, 2015
10,050
18,706
It's no secret that making money is easier when you have money - but they aren't getting richer simply because of tax cuts.
That's low hanging fruit for tax-the-rich political rhetoric.

Politicians want more money to play with so they point the finger at the people who have the money and make them out to be bad people.
They aren't bad people.
They're successful people.

Sure some of them were born on 3rd base in the baseball game of life - but whatever. Good for them. They were lucky enough to slide out of the right vagina on their birthday. It has zero impact on me and who I am. Focusing on life's imbalances isn't healthy. If people don't like their situation in life - they should work towards changing it.
This one too.