Society Black Man Killed by Officer in Alabama Mall Shooting Was Not the Gunman, Police Now Say

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  1. ConorMcGregorsBeard

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    For what it's worth, I don't subscribe to the "good guy with a gun" theory. But if the synagogue had no "good guys with a gun" and many deaths, and the mall had many "good guys with guns" and no deaths. It doesn't really support your claim that people with guns didn't have a bearing on the outcome.
     
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  3. MC Gusto

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    Are you trying to claim the motives for both shooting were the same?

    Did the police or the victim engage the shooter?

    Do you think the shooter at the mall intended to harm more targets?

    *Edit, let me qualify my previous statement with the fact the synagogue shooting wasnt the only time that catch phrase was used, just one example of many.
     
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    I can't pretend to know the answer to any of these questions. We'll have to wait for the braintrust at the Hoover PD to find someone to pin it on.
     
  5. MC Gusto

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    “The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is with a good guy with a gun”

    - Sandy Hook Elementary
    - The Tree of Life synagogue
    - Parkland High School
    - Thousand Oaks
    ... And on and on it goes.
     
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    You forgot Sutherland Springs.
     
  7. MC Gusto

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    With the volume of shootings that happen in the states, I am sure you can find one or two examples.

    Not the norm but the outliers.
     
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    If memory serves firearms are used defensively something like 70 000 times a year in the States. Personally, I don't care for the stat as it gives no context, but it does suggest that the "good guy with a gun" narrative isn't completely without merit.

    Regarding the Sutherland Springs shooting specifically, I often wonder why that one has a blind eye turned on it completely.
     
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    Schools r gun free zones buddy
     
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    Terrible.

    Hey TMMAC, I think we're a demographic of mostly "white" people, IE ethnically caucasian.

    I don't see ONE POSTER ever consistently post innocent white people shot by cops.
    It's got to happen in greater numbers than "blacks" IE 1/whatever African descent.


    Can one of you honkies please step up your game?
    I feel there's under-representation here.
     
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    It’s not reported. South African friend of mines mother got threatened with rape by a black cop in a road rage incident.
     
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    Happens often. Just ppl don't throw the word "white" in the title of the story. And we don't stand in the highway holding signs.
     
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    @HEATH VON DOOM@HEATH VON DOOM DO SOMETHING!!!!!!
     
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    It's too late, the mods have let this place go for too long. It's becoming that same cesspool of race baiting and political troll threads we left once before.
     
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  15. MC Gusto

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    I dont think it does, that good guy with a gun was a hero.
     
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    There you go with your ethnocentric assumptions.
     
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  17. MC Gusto

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    Sounds like someone needs a safe space.
     
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    You don't feel it does. There's a difference.
     
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    How's the fall crop coming?
     
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  20. MC Gusto

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    This isnt the first time it has been discussed and this is an mma thread. It didnt get a blind eye.
     
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    My mistake, I misunderstood your post.
     
  22. MC Gusto

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    Suspect in Riverchase Galleria shooting caught in GA
     
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  23. ConorMcGregorsBeard

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    Some top notch reporting there:

     
  24. MC Gusto

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    The part I quoted is updated news. The part you additionally quoted was reported two days ago.
     
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