Bush league Bellator

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  1. Hwoarang

    Hwoarang Well-Known Member

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    Bellator is becoming more and a more of a joke. How can anyone ever consider them any where near rivals to the UFC I'll never understand. They constantly sign all UFC's dregs, and any fighter with name recognition is usually over 40 and with a lifetime of injuries so that they move around like 80 year old grannies. Tito/chael and Dada/kimbo come straight to mind, and as much as I don't want to admit it, Fedor is only a shadow of his former self.
    I understand them signing fags like Dillon Danis without a fight; he's at least a world champion in his field, and should be shortcutted to see if he can hold his own against elite fighters.... well elite fighters Bellator aint.
    His first fight was against a 2wins3 losses fighter who lost his last 2 fights by submission within the first 2 minutes! Do you guys realise how bad you have to be at MMA to be submitted within a couple of minutes? Once, a fluke maybe, but 2 in a row? and then you get signed by bellator as a reward?!?!? wtf? It's like Dillon picked his own opponent.
    And then his second fight was against a 2-3 fighter whose last fight he lost in just 16 seconds.... let that sink in, Bellator is signing guys after they lose in 16seconds of the very first round. These guys wouldn't even get sanctioned to fight in my local amateur gigs. How retards have the nerve to call Bellator a top tier promotion I'll never understand.

    OneFC is light years ahead of Bellator.
     
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  2. Hwoarang

    Hwoarang Well-Known Member

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    And @CutmanMatt@CutmanMatt , perhaps you could shed some light on what was going on in that gracie/Rory fight: Do you work for Bellator or for the individual corners? Coz I've seen you do a good job plenty in the past but I just watched the Rory v Neimar Gracie fight. Saw you run into the cage at about 58 seconds into the break inbetween rounds 2 and 3 and apply the enswell for about a quarter of a second... ahhh..lol....what?
    Did you guys just not realize straight away he needed it (it wasn't really that bad), or you saw 2 corner men in already and thought that was the limit (but then changed your mind with 2 seconds left), or did you leave the bucket backstage or something?
    What's the actual procedure for a cutman going in? Is it you recognizing a fighter needs tending to, or for the head corner man to tell you to go in?
    And how many corner/cut men are allowed in the cage between rounds, I thought it was 2, but in that fight it was clearly 3 as you guys had in the later breaks. Is that a Bellator thing or a Gracie exception thing or were you guys straight up cheating and you can get away with it because it's Bellator and no one really knows what's going on?
     
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  3. Willthiswork

    Willthiswork I'd rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies.

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    Well now... This is something.
     
  4. Hwoarang

    Hwoarang Well-Known Member

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    Yep, you might even want to read the thread again.
     
  5. HEATH VON DOOM

    HEATH VON DOOM Remember the 5th of November

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    Great thread. I couldnt agree more on the bellasnore part.
     
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  6. Willthiswork

    Willthiswork I'd rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies.

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    Nah. I got it the first time.

    I even agree with some of your points. Not quite as vigorously though.
     
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    This is aggressive.
     
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  8. Hwoarang

    Hwoarang Well-Known Member

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    Unlike the fighters in bellator...
     
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  9. Hwoarang

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    It was pretty aggressively written, just watched the bellator and some pretty average fighters... But shouldn't have made the second post in same thread. I legitimately want to be educated by @CutmanMatt@CutmanMatt with those questions of what was going on and rules allowed. Not having a go there.
     
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  10. Ricky Bobby

    Ricky Bobby I apparently look like a Jewish accountant

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    Someone didn’t get signed or re-signed by bellator and he’s a little bit upset about it

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    Some points are fine but lol at glorifying One FC at the same. One is one of the most shady, corrupts orgs ever.
     
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    conor mcgregor nut hugger Jones is the GOAT, get over it dorks

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    I want that for you too, but it would appear that this is sadly another example of our public school system failing miserably.

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    I don't get this at all.
    Dude, it's just all MMA, there's no this vs. that if you're a fight fan.
    Coker does things White won't, and fighters who won't fight for blaf will for Coker.
    Mousasi is probably one of, if not the greatest clean fighter in history.
    The Welterweight & FW divisions are sick, the HW division is great and getting better.
    Bellator consistently has interesting fights & highlight reel ko's.
    Getting angry about it as if you're owed something catered specifically to your desire is....strange.
     
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  16. jason73

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    all dead or retired
     
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    I agree about putting on geriatric fights and freak show fights and feeding thr wrong ppl cans.. how does pico get all these killers but danis annoying ass is fighting dudes that would get mauled by regional show low tier guys... the whole DAZN streaming bullshit and half ass TV cards suck..but there's a lot of elite guys in bellator and put on good fights.. these Tito or chael and rampage fights are not what we wanna see..put some of the young killers from preliminaries on main card and keep building your talent.. old ass fighters aren't selling events
     
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  18. jason73

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    lets not pretend that dana didnt sign cm punk to a contract with zero experience and let him fight twice. the ufc let james tony get strangled and they are curently talking about beiber and tom cruise .the ufc has plenty of old guys in the heavyweight division .the ufc is plenty shitty in its own right. bellator has come a long way since the bjorn rebney days and puts on some fun cards. of course there is still some bush league shit going on with the ticket sales but to say it is not second place to the ufc is absurd . one is very good but has virtually no presence in the north american market and they have had plenty of ufc cast offs of their own. almost all of their known fighters are well past their prime up until the last big signing of ufc cast offs sage,mighy mouse and eddie .they have guys like aoki and brandon vera who are great for their promotion but are pretty much just big fish in a small pond. vera is juiced to the tits and fights once every 2 years . one fc has had plenty of problems of their own
    ONE Championship fighter dies after weight cut
    ONE FC fighter tells scary hospital tale
     
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  19. Never_Rolled

    Never_Rolled Dad motherfucker of the planet

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    OP actually makes some very good points and I had a friend cut from Bellator.
     
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    Wandy/Rampage IV was awesome.
    Mir/Fedor was awesome.
    Chael can still perform, but just left his gloves in the Bellator "cage", not the UFC "cage".
    Bellator was "bush league" when it was on ESPN Deportes, 20 events in and they had Jorge Masvidal being reverse triangled for the submission of the year, Chandler/Alvarez foty(imo), they were off.

    The thing is, guys, is if you've been a ufc watcher for 20 years, you're comparing a product that has neen literally branded and marketed as "MMA".
    The UFC ran a monopoly, which is illegal.
    No one can "compete" with a brand that started it all.
    If Bellator had 10,000 retarded pock-face kids showing up ripping on fighters at weigh-ins and "open workouts", with fanboys clammoring while fighters are trashing the place, you'd feel the energy of the event.
    And, isn't Blaf kinda setting the tone, popular or not, for "bush league", by forcing fighters to talk shit & go balls out crazy because they won't actually spend money to promote?
    It's all perception.
    You can't expect so much, it's David vs. Goliath.
    Coker has been promoting for longer than Dana, against a titan.
    They're doing a great job with what they have, and it keeps getting better.

    DAZN was forward-thinking.
    It's now got combate americas this weekend, they've got AJ/Ruiz signed, Canelo, GGG, Bellator and more.
    DAZN pays for itself in 1.5 ppv's with combat all the time.
    Rather than critique it all, I'll always promote because to me, it's the fighters that matter most.
     
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    Willthiswork I'd rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies.

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    It's just so strange that, at least for us in North America, they're going to have the prelims on the app and then take time off and then go back to the app for the last 3 fights and then later they're showing the other main card fights on delay on DAZN and Paramount.

    That's just fucking awkward.
     
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