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California lawmakers vote to reduce penalty for knowingly exposing sexual partners to HIV

State lawmakers on Monday gave final legislative approval to a bill that would reduce from a felony to a misdemeanor the crime of knowingly exposing a sexual partner to HIV without disclosing the infection.

SB 239, which now goes to the governor, was introduced by Sen. Scott Wiener (D-San Francisco), who said the current law discriminated against those who have human immunodeficiency virus, or HIV, the precursor to AIDS, because exposure to other communicable diseases is a misdemeanor.

The same reduction in crime level would apply to people who donate blood or semen without disclosing that they have tested positive for HIV or AIDS.

Right now HIV is singled out for uniquely harsh treatment as a felony,” Wiener told his colleagues during the floor debate.

Republicans, including Sen. Joel Anderson of San Diego, voted against the bill, saying it puts the public at risk.

“I’m of the mind that if you purposefully inflict another with a disease that alters their lifestyle the rest of their life, puts them on a regiment of medications to maintain any kind of normalcy, it should be a felony,” Anderson said. “It’s absolutely crazy to me that we should go light on this.”

He said tougher penalties should be extended to those who expose others to other infectious diseases.

Sen. Jeff Stone, a Republican pharmacist from Murrieta, also said it should remain a felony if someone exposes a partner to HIV, which he said would "condemn one to probably $1 million in drug therapy for the rest of their lives."


Wiener noted that modern drug treatment can make someone with HIV noninfectous to others, but he said the law had not kept up with science.

He said some people may choose not to be tested if it makes them liable for a felony should they expose someone they have sex with to HIV.

“These laws do not prevent HIV infections,” Wiener said during the debate. “All they do is stigmatize people living with HIV and reduce access to testing and care.”

The bill is supported by groups including the American Civil Liberties Union of California, the Black Aids Institute and Equality California, which advocates for the LGBTQ community.






What say you?
Someone is knowingly exposing others to such a disease? Be tough out does that stop testing??
 

sparkuri

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What the fuck?
I think California needs a Star Chamber for retarded legislators.

Actually every state does.
But this?
Unbelievable.
 

SongExotic2

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The fact that gender is even called into question here almost made me choke on my partners "downstairs mix-up"

IMO anyone who infects someone with aids knowingly should be responsible to criminal charges.


Or death
 

Freeloading Rusty

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That's fucked up.

Knowingly exposing someone to HIV should be a felony.

I do recognize the truth in the concern that keeping it a felony or mandating harsh penalties may encourage idiots not to get tested though.
 

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Well seeing as we were talking about Jim Carrey earlier let's discuss his gf.


He got her riddled with STDs , blamed her, and then she killed herself.
 

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The fact that gender is even called into question here almost made me choke on my partners "downstairs mix-up"

IMO anyone who infects someone with aids knowingly should be responsible to criminal charges.


Or death
@Splinty did you edit the OP? I swear when I made this comment it had something to do with males facing extra prosecution vs females.
 

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I wonder how "willingly" or "knowingly" is defined here? If a guy I'm having sex with says he's on Prep and I'm on my AZTs and so I don't disclose because why ruin the mood, is that felonious transmission? If we're using a condom and it breaks, does that count? I'm guessing the safe rule is always disclose, but due to the virus being seen as more controllable now, some probably feel less obligation to disclose. Should it be a felony if they don't, i.e. a life ruiner that impacts your ability to vote, get a job etc? Not sure. For public health reasons, seems like a yes, but then where does that precedent end?

Should men who are carriers for HPV but don't disclose possible exposure likewise be subject to felony charges if a partner develops cervical cancer?
 

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California lawmakers vote to reduce penalty for knowingly exposing sexual partners to HIV

State lawmakers on Monday gave final legislative approval to a bill that would reduce from a felony to a misdemeanor the crime of knowingly exposing a sexual partner to HIV without disclosing the infection.

SB 239, which now goes to the governor, was introduced by Sen. Scott Wiener (D-San Francisco), who said the current law discriminated against those who have human immunodeficiency virus, or HIV, the precursor to AIDS, because exposure to other communicable diseases is a misdemeanor.
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He said tougher penalties should be extended to those who expose others to other infectious diseases.



What say you?
Someone is knowingly exposing others to such a disease? Be tough out does that stop testing??
What say me? Besides this is fucking criminally stupid?
How about because it's a fucking DeathSentence??/ - Maybe not so much these days with anti-retrovirals or whatever, but still... it wasn't called Ass Injected Death Sentence for nothing...

Other infectious diseases don't even come close.
Of course the douchedick who introduced it, is named Wiener - go figure.
 

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I'm guessing the safe rule is always disclose, but due to the virus being seen as more controllable now, some probably feel less obligation to disclose. Should it be a felony if they don't, i.e. a life ruiner that impacts your ability to vote, get a job etc? Not sure. For public health reasons, seems like a yes, but then where does that precedent end?

Should men who are carriers for HPV but don't disclose possible exposure likewise be subject to felony charges if a partner develops cervical cancer?
I kinda think you're trolling but you've posted some craziness before, so I'm not sure.

Are you really unsure that non disclosure of a life changing disease shouldn't be a felony? Being easy to control is irrelevant to whether someone should be informed.
 

Shinkicker

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I kinda think you're trolling but you've posted some craziness before, so I'm not sure.

Are you really unsure that non disclosure of a life changing disease shouldn't be a felony? Being easy to control is irrelevant to whether someone should be informed.
But you could ruin the mood!
 

Leigh

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But you could ruin the mood!
Valid point

I was once hammering a single mum on a one night stand. She told me to kiss her but I didn't want to. I told her I had a cold to put her off but she said, "I don't care". I still didn't.

Another time I hammered a different single mum (LOL) and she just jumped on, without a condom. I asked if she was worried if I had anything.

"well I've got it now :) "

Some women just don't care.
 

Shinkicker

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Valid point

I was once hammering a single mum on a one night stand. She told me to kiss her but I didn't want to. I told her I had a cold to put her off but she said, "I don't care". I still didn't.

Another time I hammered a different single mum (LOL) and she just jumped on, without a condom. I asked if she was worried if I had anything.

"well I've got it now :) "

Some women just don't care.
Had you kissed her before said hammering ensued?
 
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Valid point

I was once hammering a single mum on a one night stand. She told me to kiss her but I didn't want to. I told her I had a cold to put her off but she said, "I don't care". I still didn't.

Another time I hammered a different single mum (LOL) and she just jumped on, without a condom. I asked if she was worried if I had anything.

"well I've got it now :) "

Some women just don't care.

I'd risk it for a try at the Leigh @Leigh
 

SongExotic2

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Valid point

I was once hammering a single mum on a one night stand. She told me to kiss her but I didn't want to. I told her I had a cold to put her off but she said, "I don't care". I still didn't.

Another time I hammered a different single mum (LOL) and she just jumped on, without a condom. I asked if she was worried if I had anything.

"well I've got it now :) "

Some women just don't care.
Where did you meet these women?
 

Shinkicker

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Yuck! Fuck no
You're the male version of Pretty Woman? Lol


I can't imagine even wanting to have sex with anyone that I haven't kissed, or didn't want to kiss. Is this common? Anyone else had sex with someone you never kissed?
 

Leigh

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Where did you meet these women?
These two in particular? Or women in general?

First one live in the same block of flats as me.
Second was introduced by a friend.

In general, half the population are female. You can meet women anywhere.