General Canada's House of Commons votes to legalize marijuana

[Nemo?]

yes it should

But some states in US allow you to grow your own and that cuts them clean out of the profit

that is what I was referring to

I wasn't saying you btw I was speaking in general.

Give me your tomatoes! I want my cut.

 

[Rambo John J]

I wasn't saying you btw I was speaking in general.

Give me your tomatoes! I want my cut.

ok come over in a month and I will share

 

[megatherium]

yes it should

But some states in US allow you to grow your own and that cuts them clean out of the profit

that is what I was referring to

Oh, we're allowed to 'grow our own' too. Up to four plants, on private property, out of sight of the neighbors, and tagged with a government approved licensed producer's marker. Folks that own property will be able to grow and consume out of public view away from children. So the same sort of folks that get busted occasionally now will really be feeling the heat under this new 'stricter harsher' regime.

This was always going to be a really bad thing for Canadians that actually like the weed. This is legalization for people that hate weed.

 

[Rambo John J]

Oh, we're allowed to 'grow our own' too. Up to four plants, on private property, out of sight of the neighbors, and tagged with a government approved licensed producer's marker. Folks that own property will be able to grow and consume out of public view away from children. So the same sort of folks that get busted occasionally now will really be feeling the heat under this new 'stricter harsher' regime.

This was always going to be a really bad thing for Canadians that actually like the weed. This is legalization for people that hate weed.

well at least you can grow some...don't like the government marker thing though

that is if you have land though

Fencing business will be booming for privacy barriers I would think

 

[megatherium]

yes it should

But some states in US allow you to grow your own and that cuts them clean out of the profit

that is what I was referring to

This is the opposite direction from what most states have done. No pathway to legitimacy for the existing industry, no amnesty for those with pot related criminal records. Strict international big business monopoly.

 

[megatherium]

well at least you can grow some...don't like the government marker thing though

that is if you have land though

Fencing business will be booming for privacy barriers I would think[/QUOTE]

Yep

 

[Lamont Cranston]

Sadly, for some people no amount of legalization will be acceptable if it isn't done "their" way.

 

[megatherium]

Sadly, for some people no amount of legalization will be acceptable if it isn't done "their" way.

Well, increased criminalization isn't the way I would personally prefer to go.

But in fairness, this should be marginally better if you live in, say, Nunuvut.

 

[megatherium]

These fine folks were handed the exclusive rights to sell recreational marijuana the lucky people in the New Brunswick legal market

New Brunswick's largest licensed supplier of medical marijuana is trying to fend off a class-action lawsuit at a three-day hearing that started Tuesday in Halifax.

Organigram, which employs some 300 people in Moncton, is accused of making customers sick by supplying them with cannabis that was tainted with unapproved pesticides in 2016.

• Proposed class action filed against N.B. producer of tainted pot

• THE CURRENT
  'Constant nausea': Halifax woman suing medical marijuana producer after becoming ill

• Lawsuit against Organigram expands to allege tainted pot made users ill

"One of the things we want for people who purchased contaminated products is to get their money back," said the plaintiff's lawyer, Ray Wagner.

"The second thing is that we're also looking for punitive damages to punish Organigram for what they did, we say, knowingly or recklessly, using banned pesticides to improve commercial value of their product."

In 2016, Organigram announced a voluntary recall of its cannabis because myclobutanil was detected.

Myclobutanil is not on the list of 21 registered pesticides allowed by Health Canada for use on indoor cultivation of cannabis.

Organigram's organic certification was also suspended.

When notified of the proceeding, the company issued a written statement, announcing it would launch a strong defence.

However, Organigram declined to provide anyone for an interview while the class-action certification hearing was underway before Justice Ann Smith in the Nova Scotia Supreme Court.

Wagner said as many as 5,000 Organigram customers could be part of the action if Smith decides to certify the class action.

That would include anyone who purchased the product between Feb. 1, 2016, and Dec. 16, 2016.

The representative client is Halifax patient Dawn Rae Downton, who was prescribed medical marijuana for back pain in 2016.

Last year, she told CBC News that adverse effects such as nausea and vomiting caused her to "lose eight months of her life."

New Brunswick patients also came forward with complaints.

Military veteran Alvina Savoie of Neguac told CBC News that she developed breathing problems, dizziness and a rash after consuming Organigram product in 2016.

• Ex-Organigram customer says she still suffers from contaminated medical pot

She was consuming the Organigram product as part of her treatment for post-traumatic stress disorder.

In March 2017, there was a change in leadership in the company when Greg Engel was appointed as CEO.

About six months later, the New Brunswick government announced that Organigram would be one of its partners in the recreational marijuana market, anticipating legalization in 2018.

The company has also been looking to hire to meet that future demand, saying it plans to bring on another 100 employees.

New Brunswick producer fights tainted cannabis lawsuit in court | CBC News

 

[Freeloading Rusty]

Cannabis Act, impaired driving changes among several bills to officially pass Parliament

The federal government's legislation to legalize and regulate recreational marijuana has received Royal Assent, meaning the bill has officially passed Parliament.

Bill C-45, the Cannabis Act, was one of just under a dozen pieces of legislation that received the formal ascension Thursday morning.

Despite the bill passing, it is not yet law. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announced Wednesday that Oct. 17 will be the date that marijuana will be legal across Canada.

In the meantime, the provinces, territories, and municipalities have time to finalize the set-up of their retail stores and to come in-line with the new regulations.

Bill C-45's companion piece of legislation, Bill C-46, which deals with impaired driving also received Royal Assent. This legislation changes the impaired driving laws to give police new powers to conduct roadside intoxication tests, including oral fluid drug tests, and makes it illegal to drive within two hours of being over the legal limit. For example, the bill states that having between two and five nanograms of THC per milliliter of blood would be a summary criminal conviction, punishable by a fine of up to $1,000.

According to the Justice Department, the drug-impaired driving aspects of the bill have now become law, with Royal Assent. This means despite legalized marijuana not yet being allowed, there are new restrictions on drug-impaired driving. The changes in the bill related to alcohol-impaired driving come into force on December 18, 2018.

Gov. Gen. Julie Payette oversaw the ceremony in the Senate chamber.

 

[megatherium]

View: https://youtu.be/qMxP6YzPtrA

 

[Freeloading Rusty]

Why admitting to cannabis use could get you banned from U.S. for life

If you’ve ever smoked pot in your life, you may want to think twice about answering certain questions at the U.S. border on your next trip south.

Even though recreational marijuana is legal in several U.S. states and will be legal across Canada on Oct. 17, possession of marijuana is still a criminal offence under U.S. federal law.

That means that answering a U.S. border officer’s questions about your marijuana use could have serious consequences.

“It’s basically black and white – if you admit to a U.S. border officer at a U.S. port of entry that you’ve smoked marijuana in the past, whether it’s in Canada or the U.S., you will be barred entry for life to the United States,” immigration lawyer Len Saunders told CTV’s Your Morning on Tuesday.

Saunders, who is based in Washington state, said that Canadians who get the lifetime ban can still apply for temporary waivers, which can allow them to cross the border for up to five years.

But they will have to keep re-applying to get those waivers for life and the process can be lengthy and costly.

According to the U.S. Customs and Border Protection website, an application for a waiver of inadmissibility costs US$585 and can take up to a year to process. The application requires a lot of paperwork, which may include fingerprinting and a verification of your criminal record.

Saunders said he expects U.S. border officers will be asking Canadians more frequently about cannabis use once pot is legal here.

He’s not advising Canadians to lie to U.S. border officials, but said they simply don’t have to answer when asked if they’ve ever smoked pot.

“As a Canadian citizen at a U.S. point of entry, you have the right not to answer that question,” he said.

Those who refuse to answer the question may be denied entry to the U.S. that day, but it’s better than being slapped with a lifetime ban, Saunders said.

He said he’s had clients who’ve told him they were threatened with lie detector and drug tests, but those are not allowed at the border.

According to Statistics Canada, 49.4 per cent of men and 35.8 per cent of women admit to using marijuana at some point in their lives.

On its website, the Canadian government warns travellers that “previous use of cannabis, or any other substance prohibited by local law, could result in a traveller being denied entry to their destination country.”

“Each country or territory decides who can enter or exit through its borders. The Government of Canada cannot intervene on your behalf if you do not meet your destination’s entry or exit requirements,” the warning says.

 

[Freeloading Rusty]

Ottawa isn't putting a cap on the potency of many cannabis products
New regulations unveiled today don't place upper limit on THC content

Health Canada has released its new regulations for the legal recreational marijuana market, but they don't include a clear limit on how much tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) — the main psychoactive component in cannabis — can be sold in many products.

As of Oct. 17, Canadians will be permitted to legally buy fresh or dried cannabis, cannabis oil, plants and seeds, and to possess up to 30 grams of dried cannabis or its equivalent in public.

Government officials, speaking on background, updated reporters on the regulations for producing and marketing those products during a conference call Wednesday morning.

The regulations, which will be officially published July 11, say THC cannot be added to a dried product and place limits on the net weight of dried cannabis products, but do not impose a cap on the potency of dried cannabis.

The officials said the lack of a threshold fits into the goal of the government's bill.

"There are significant varieties of cannabis, some with high levels of THC. This is consistent with the medical regulations that exist today. There is not a hard cap on the potency of dried cannabis," one official said.

"(It's) a means to move to a regulated, diverse marketplace that can compete with the illegal marketplace and successfully achieve the government's objectives."

However, there are strict potency rules for cannabis products other than dried marijuana.

For example, cannabis products intended to be "administered orally, rectally, vaginally or topically" must not exceed a maximum yield quantity of 10 milligrams of THC.

Cannabis products "intended to be used in the human eye" will be banned.

As the official legalization date looms, some have questioned whether there will be enough product to serve the new legal recreational market.

Federal licences will be required to cultivate and process recreational cannabis, but they won't be processed until after legalization comes into effect.

Still, officials say they're pretty confident they'll have enough legal marijuana to meet the demand when legalization kicks in this fall.

Provincial governments are responsible for determining how and where recreational cannabis is sold. In some provinces — including Ontario, Quebec and most of Atlantic Canada — the stores will be run by the provincial governments. Elsewhere, the private sector will take the lead.

When asked about supply, officials speaking on background said they're pretty confident there will be enough cannabis for opening day.

According to the regulations, licence applications will be assessed on merit and a record of previous drug-related offences, including trafficking, won't automatically disqualify an applicant. So having a criminal background won't necessarily prevent Canadians from getting into the industry.

In March, Health Canada unveiled its proposals for the packaging and regulation of recreational cannabis.

The regulations released Wednesday confirm that cannabis products will have to be sold in plain packaging, with strict guidelines on logos, colours and branding, and must include health warnings.

The packaging also would have to indicate how much of the primary active compounds in cannabis — THC and cannabidiol (CBD) — are in a particular product.

Limits for micro growers
The rules outline how the federal government would regulate small cultivators and processors.

A micro-cultivator — someone growing pot on a small, boutique-like scale — will be restricted to a "plant canopy area" of no more than 200 square meters.

The regulations also impose rules on security and state where growers can set up shop. For example, a producer can't grow and harvest plants outside if the operation is adjacent to a school, a public playground, a daycare facility or any other public place frequented mainly by people under 18 years of age.

 

[Freeloading Rusty]

Russia rips Canada’s ‘high-handedness’ in legalizing recreational marijuana[QUOTE]

Russia is not happy with Canada for legalizing recreational marijuana.

Moscow issued a stern warning to Ottawa over the impending cannabis legalization on Oct. 17, saying Canada “deliberately decided to breach” international law.

“We expect Canada’s partners in the G7 to respond to its ‘high-handedness’ because this alliance has repeatedly declared its adherence to the domination of international law in relations between states,” Russia’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs said in a statement.

Canada has signed treaties that were designed to help combat the drug trade and to limit the production and sale of recreational drugs and to limit use and possession to medical and scientific purposes.


“It is important that the UN General Assembly Special Session on the World Problem of Drugs, which took place on April 21, 2016, made it clear in its final document, for which the Canadian delegation also voted, that the three anti-drug Conventions are ‘the cornerstone of the international drug control system,’” Russia’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs said in a statement. “Russia strictly abides by these principles and intends to consistently introduce them in practice within the boundaries of the UN Commission on Narcotic Drugs and other relevant international venues.”

Earlier this month, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announced Oct. 17 as the date of legalization after the government had pushed back the end of prohibition several times.

“Parliament has now passed Bill C-45, which will legalize and regulate access to cannabis. We will soon have a new system in place, one that keeps cannabis out of the hands of our kids and keeps profits out of the hands of organized crime,” Trudeau said.

The United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC) also condemned Canada’s pot legalization.

“UNODC regrets the Canadian legislature’s decision to legalize cannabis for non-medical use,” the agency said in a statement. “As noted by the International Narcotics Control Board in its statement of 21 June, this decision contravenes the provisions of the drug control conventions, and undermines the international legal drug control framework and respect for the rules-based international order.”
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[megatherium]

Private pot shops are wonderful and probably doomed: Opinion | CBC News

Private pot shops are wonderful and probably doomed: Neil Macdonald
Most governments don't tolerate competition in the sin business

 

[megatherium]

'Money drove the policy': How dreams of dividends got Canada to legal pot
'It was time to make money off of something that was criminalized for 70 or 80 years'

CBC Radio · June 22



CBC Radio - Day 6

 

[megatherium]

The politics of pot lobbying

When the Liberals announced plans to legalize recreational cannabis in the fall of 2015, there was no framework for how the product would be regulated and distributed or who would be at the helm of the new industry estimated to be worth between $8 and $22 billion

Enter a host of politically-connected government insiders, former police chiefs, and lobbyists who angled to secure a slice of the pie for themselves and the upstart companies they represent.

From politics to pot, former officials jump into the weed business

 

[jasonhightower]

Russia rips Canada’s ‘high-handedness’ in legalizing recreational marijuana[QUOTE]

Russia is not happy with Canada for legalizing recreational marijuana.

Moscow issued a stern warning to Ottawa over the impending cannabis legalization on Oct. 17, saying Canada “deliberately decided to breach” international law.

“We expect Canada’s partners in the G7 to respond to its ‘high-handedness’ because this alliance has repeatedly declared its adherence to the domination of international law in relations between states,” Russia’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs said in a statement.

Canada has signed treaties that were designed to help combat the drug trade and to limit the production and sale of recreational drugs and to limit use and possession to medical and scientific purposes.


“It is important that the UN General Assembly Special Session on the World Problem of Drugs, which took place on April 21, 2016, made it clear in its final document, for which the Canadian delegation also voted, that the three anti-drug Conventions are ‘the cornerstone of the international drug control system,’” Russia’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs said in a statement. “Russia strictly abides by these principles and intends to consistently introduce them in practice within the boundaries of the UN Commission on Narcotic Drugs and other relevant international venues.”

Earlier this month, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announced Oct. 17 as the date of legalization after the government had pushed back the end of prohibition several times.

“Parliament has now passed Bill C-45, which will legalize and regulate access to cannabis. We will soon have a new system in place, one that keeps cannabis out of the hands of our kids and keeps profits out of the hands of organized crime,” Trudeau said.

The United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC) also condemned Canada’s pot legalization.

“UNODC regrets the Canadian legislature’s decision to legalize cannabis for non-medical use,” the agency said in a statement. “As noted by the International Narcotics Control Board in its statement of 21 June, this decision contravenes the provisions of the drug control conventions, and undermines the international legal drug control framework and respect for the rules-based international order.”

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Fuck Russia.

 

[Freeloading Rusty]

Fuck Russia.[/QUOTE]

 

[Freeloading Rusty]

Less than a week away from legalization and does anyone know whats going on?

My regular pot shop has closed its doors. I have been stocking up on shatter, vape cartridges and edibles.


Ex-Liberal treasurer putting up $25K to fight drug-impaired driving law

The Liberal Party's former treasurer is vowing to use his own money to fight the government's new drug-impaired driving laws.

Chuck Rifici now runs Nesta Holding Co., a private equity firm that invests in the cannabis industry. He's committing $25,000 of his own funds to back a legal challenge of Canada's updated impaired driving laws.

He's found a lawyer, Kirk Tousaw, willing to take on the case. Next step: finding the perfect plaintiff.

"Typically, it involves finding the best plaintiff to try to advance the case and the government, as they had in the past, will most likely appeal it all the way to the Supreme Court. So it will be a longer battle," said Rifici, who also helped start Canopy Growth, one of the most valuable cannabis companies in the world.

"Certainly I've been fortunate to do quite well in the cannabis industry, and I think it's just a small thing I can do and I feel passionate about creating a better policy for cannabis impairment."

The Liberal Party's former treasurer is vowing to use his own money to fight the government's new drug-impaired driving laws.

Chuck Rifici now runs Nesta Holding Co., a private equity firm that invests in the cannabis industry. He's committing $25,000 of his own funds to back a legal challenge of Canada's updated impaired driving laws.

He's found a lawyer, Kirk Tousaw, willing to take on the case. Next step: finding the perfect plaintiff.

"Typically, it involves finding the best plaintiff to try to advance the case and the government, as they had in the past, will most likely appeal it all the way to the Supreme Court. So it will be a longer battle," said Rifici, who also helped start Canopy Growth, one of the most valuable cannabis companies in the world.

"Certainly I've been fortunate to do quite well in the cannabis industry, and I think it's just a small thing I can do and I feel passionate about creating a better policy for cannabis impairment."

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

Less than a week away from legalization and does anyone know whats going on?

In Ontario it's available online only. Luckily for pot smokers the new government sorted out the previous government's stupidity. $5 flat shipping 1-3 days delivery. We can smoke anywhere that you're allowed to smoke cigarettes, but I'm not quite sure how that is going to jive with public intoxication laws.

On a manipulation related note, I'm finding it interesting that in the past few weeks it's become "cannabis". Of course there's a lot about this whole thing that stinks to high heavens.

 

[Freeloading Rusty]

In Ontario it's available online only. Luckily for pot smokers the new government sorted out the previous government's stupidity. $5 flat shipping 1-3 days delivery. We can smoke anywhere that you're allowed to smoke cigarettes, but I'm not quite sure how that is going to jive with public intoxication laws.

On a manipulation related note, I'm finding it interesting that in the past few weeks it's become "cannabis". Of course there's a lot about this whole thing that stinks to high heavens.

I think in BC you can only smoke in private spaces.

We will have govt and private pot shops but no info on what or where next week.

Its the new impaired driving laws (criminal code - Federal govt) that are questionable.

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

Its the new impaired driving laws (criminal code - Federal govt) that are questionable.

All impaired driving laws are unconstitutional, I'm not sure why people would think the weed laws would have been any different.

 

[Freeloading Rusty]

All impaired driving laws are unconstitutional, I'm not sure why people would think the weed laws would have been any different.

I was more referring to the new ability by the police to do a physical intoxication 'test' without requiring cause... no alcohol or THC indicators necessary.

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

I was more referring to the new ability by the police to do a physical intoxication 'test' without requiring cause... no alcohol or THC indicators necessary.

I'm not trying to be inflammatory, but what were you expecting?