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Banchan

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100% they would have
You are walking the ledge of weirdo conspiracists here.

It would be advantageous for Canada to stay out of this for sure but Trudeau is pretty good about following law even when he's going to get lots of criticism for it like the Omar Kahdar payment.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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She was in China, you expected Trudeau to find her in China and tell her if she flies into Canada they are going to arrest her for for extradition?
The Chinese clearly expected to have been informed by the Canadian government. I personally had no expectation of our political leaders to do favours to criminals. My only real issue is that the government is being too "diplomatic".
 

Banchan

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The Chinese clearly expected to have been informed by the Canadian government. I personally had no expectation of our political leaders to do favours to criminals. My only real issue is that the government is being too "diplomatic".
Because they are so down with Canada?

You dislike diplomacy you should consider moving to a grande paradise of corruption like China.
 

Banchan

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I have no idea what you're talking about.
Why should Trudeau care about mengwheng or Xi's peoples army? Shes not a Canadian citizen and China one of the worst countries in the world. F her and China. Not trudeau's job to save a corrupt chinese business official.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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Because they are so down with Canada?

You dislike diplomacy you should consider moving to a grande paradise of corruption like China.
Just so I'm understanding this correctly.
1) A thing happens.
2) China gets mad.
3) Our leader tries to weasel out of having anything to do with it.
4) I suggest our leader should have owned it because it's the right thing to do.
5) You suggest I move to corrupt China?
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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Why should Trudeau care about mengwheng or Xi's peoples army? Shes not a Canadian citizen and China one of the worst countries in the world. F her and China. Not trudeau's job to save a corrupt chinese business official.
I never said that he should. You're political bias is clouding your judgement and you're assuming that because I'm criticizing JT's statement that I disagree with what his actions.
 

Freeloading Rusty

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A potential second Canadian detained in China:

Canadian missing in China identified as Michael Spavor, organizer of North Korean exchanges
A Canadian citizen in China that Ottawa lost contact with after he was questioned by Chinese authorities has been identified as Michael P. Spavor, the founder of a company that arranges cultural exchanges with North Korea

"We have been unable to make contact since he let us know he was being questioned by Chinese authorities," Global Affairs Canada said in a statement to CBC News late on Wednesday. "We are working very hard to ascertain his whereabouts and we continue to raise this with the Chinese government."

Spavor is the founder of Peaktu Cultural Exchange, a Canadian-owned, China-based firm that organizes cultural exchanges to North Korea.

Spavor's personal Facebook page contains several images of him with North Korean leader Kim Jong-un including one of him with both Jong-un and former professional basketball player Dennis Rodman at an undisclosed location. Another image shows the two sharing a drink on a boat.

Foreign Affairs Minister Chrystia Freeland declined to provide more information about Spavor's case in a briefing on Wednesday afternoon, calling it a "delicate situation." Canadian authorities have said they are in touch with his family.

Spavor's disappearance follows the arrest of Michael Kovrig, a Canadian diplomat on leave who was taken into custody earlier this week by Chinese authorities.

Kovrig, who is on leave from GAC to work for an NGO in China, was detained by Chinese officials without explanation earlier this week. Freeland said Wednesday that Canada has yet to get consular access to Kovrig and has not been provided with information about his whereabouts.

Kovrig's arrest came days after Canada detained the chief financial officer of Chinese telecommunications firm Huawei, Meng Wanzhou, on an extradition request from the U.S. Freeland said that Meng, who has been released on bail, was given consular access immediately after her arrest.

View: https://twitter.com/PnPCBC/status/1072977709368627201
 

Freeloading Rusty

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NDP wants RCMP to probe allegation Ford's office asked OPP for 'camper-type vehicle'
NDP Leader Andrea Horwath is calling on the RCMP to investigate an allegation that Ontario Premier Doug Ford's office asked the provincial police force to buy him a specialized "camper-type vehicle."

The alleged request is detailed in a Dec. 11 letter sent by Brad Blair, interim commissioner of Ontario Provincial Police, to ombudsman Paul Dubé.

In the letter, Blair alleges Dean French, Ford's chief of staff, wanted the OPP to buy the vehicle, have it modified to specifications set by the premier's office and keep the costs off the provincial books.

'Bad episode of Pimp My Ride'
Horwath, who leads Ontario's Official Opposition, told reporters on Wednesday at Queen's Park that she agrees with Blair that hiding the costs of a camper vehicle would be a violation of the province's financial policies.

"It's a bad episode of 'Pimp My Ride,' where the premier actually asks the OPP, or one of his operatives, Dean French, whoever it was, to put together a camper-style vehicle that is pimped out with all the premier's specifications, and that the supplier of said vehicle is somebody that the premier is going to choose," she said.

"And on top of that, keep it away from the public, don't let anybody know what the costs are going to be, keep it off the books. Are you kidding me? People deserve so much better than this from their new government."

Appointment under 'cloud of suspicion'
At the news conference, Horwath demanded that the government create a new committee to look into what role Ford played in the appointment of the next provincial police commissioner, Toronto police Supt. Ron Taverner — a close friend of the Ford family.

"The independence of police forces is fundamental to the health of our democracy," she said. "Mr. Taverner's appointment cannot go ahead under this cloud of suspicion."

Horwath said police forces must be free of real or perceived political influences.

"That is why I'm calling for the creation of a select committee of the legislature, a committee with equal representation from government and non-government MPPs and the full power to call witnesses and subpoena any relevant documents," she said.


Horwath appealed to Taverner directly, asking him to delay assuming control of the OPP and "do the right thing." He is expected to assume his post on Dec. 17.

In addition, she backed Blair's call for a review of Taverner's appointment by the ombudsman's office and called on the province's integrity commissioner to carry out his own investigation in the circumstances of the appointment in light of allegations of political interference.

"I'm concerned that it might have been Doug Ford himself who determined who would be the next commissioner of the OPP," she said.

Until all the investigations are completed, Horwath said, French should step aside.

Sylvia Jones, Ontario minister of community safety and correctional services, defended the appointment, saying in a statement released on Wednesday that the government stands by its decision and the process it used in making the appointment.

Province disputes letter
"We are not going to comment on Mr. Blair's motivations for using the office he holds to raise these issues. We will explore the appropriate venue to review the content of a letter that we fully and completely dispute," she said.

"It is unfortunate that this service has been unfairly maligned by unfounded allegations about the appointment process. We would respect any decision made by the ombudsman about an inquiry into this matter and would co-operate with any such review."

Jones did not comment on the allegation that the premier's office wanted a camper-style vehicle.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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Freeloading Rusty

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It should be pointed out that the guy who's publicizing this is mad at Ford because he isn't going to get the job he wants. It should also be pointed out that instead of waiting for the deal to go through and being able to nail Ford with much stronger evidence he jumped the gun. The guy who wants to be the province's top cop can't execute a basic sting operation.
Ron is Dougs buddy though, what more evidence do you need?
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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Ron is Dougs buddy though, what more evidence do you need?
I find it interesting that the CBC article didn't mention that Blair also asked the ombudsman to delay the appointment due to political interference.

I also find it interesting that politicians want to pretend that the brass of police orgs aren't just politicians in different suits.
 

Freeloading Rusty

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I find it interesting that the CBC article didn't mention that Blair also asked the ombudsman to delay the appointment due to political interference.

I also find it interesting that politicians want to pretend that the brass of police orgs aren't just politicians in different suits.
Maybe you missed it..

In addition, she backed Blair's call for a review of Taverner's appointment by the ombudsman's office and called on the province's integrity commissioner to carry out his own investigation in the circumstances of the appointment in light of allegations of political interference.

"I'm concerned that it might have been Doug Ford himself who determined who would be the next commissioner of the OPP," she said.
 
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Right now Alberta is feeling seriously isolated and used. I don’t think the alienation has been this bad since the other Trudeau. If a referendum were held today 6 out of 10 Albertans would be in favour of separation. I don’t really think that would be a good answer for them, but it’s not a good number.

Freeloading Rusty @MC Gusto otaku1 @otaku1 build the pipelines you hippies
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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Right now Alberta is feeling seriously isolated and used. I don’t think the alienation has been this bad since the other Trudeau. If a referendum were held today 6 out of 10 Albertans would be in favour of separation. I don’t really think that would be a good answer for them, but it’s not a good number
Personally I'm in favour of the pipeline. It would help minimize of the world's biggest environmental problems.

That being said, didn't Alberta tell the other provinces to go fuck themselves when oil prices first spiked like 15 years ago and it benefitted them?
 
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Personally I'm in favour of the pipeline. It would help minimize of the world's biggest environmental problems.

That being said, didn't Alberta tell the other provinces to go fuck themselves when oil prices first spiked like 15 years ago and it benefitted them?
Peak oil enabled Alberta to make money off the tar sands for the first time. They have the most limited market of a major producer of Oil in the world as far as I’m aware, and they already got made to roll over in the 80s.

Ontario and Alberta are the workhorses of confederation. Alberta complains a bit more but they both get the shaft regularly from da feds.
 

otaku1

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Personally I'm in favour of the pipeline. It would help minimize of the world's biggest environmental problems.

That being said, didn't Alberta tell the other provinces to go fuck themselves when oil prices first spiked like 15 years ago and it benefitted them?
Pretty much what I think. Dutch disease. Remember that? Alberta was happy to show the finger.

I’m one of the few here that’s for the pipeline. I pass for evil right wing anti environment.

Eco-socialism is the new big thing here. Don’t expect much.
 
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Pretty much what I think. Dutch disease. Remember that? Alberta was happy to show the finger.

I’m one of the few here that’s for the pipeline. I pass for evil right wing anti environment.

Eco-socialism is the new big thing here. Don’t expect much.
If you guys built the pipeline you could get even more of Alberta’s money to pay for your opulence!

And Alberta showing the finger was a return of the favour, not the start of a fight.
 

DiSmAnTLeR

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Right now Alberta is feeling seriously isolated and used. I don’t think the alienation has been this bad since the other Trudeau. If a referendum were held today 6 out of 10 Albertans would be in favour of separation. I don’t really think that would be a good answer for them, but it’s not a good number.

Freeloading Rusty @MC Gusto otaku1 @otaku1 build the pipelines you hippies

LOL at 6 out of 10

I could hold an informal poll in downtown Red Deer right now and get 10 out of 10, since they announced the equalization amounts the other day and Quebec snubbed our oil, while also getting the largest piece of the pie that Alberta serves.

Personally, I’ve been a fan of Alberta separating from Ottawa since the Charolettetown Accord and I found out that it was even possible. Everything East of Stettler is Newfie.



 

DiSmAnTLeR

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Personally I'm in favour of the pipeline. It would help minimize of the world's biggest environmental problems.

That being said, didn't Alberta tell the other provinces to go fuck themselves when oil prices first spiked like 15 years ago and it benefitted them?

We should have, but we didn’t.


Alberta gives more than it gets from federal government: Fraser Institute

“Alberta contributed more money to the federal purse than any other province in Canada from 2007 to 2015, and has received fewer dollars in return, according to a study released Thursday.“


“In the midst of the oil boom, between 2004 and 2014, the report said Alberta created 32.5 per cent of all private sector jobs in the country, despite “having only 11.7 per cent of the country’s population.”

Just two years ago, in 2015, the report said Albertans paid about 63 per cent more in federal tax dollars than other Canadians.

Without revenue from Alberta, the report claims Ottawa would have seen big deficits every year since 2009.

“We’ve got a pretty big deficit this year… Without Alberta’s big contribution, that’s about twice as big,” Eisen said.”
 

DiSmAnTLeR

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Pretty much what I think. Dutch disease. Remember that? Alberta was happy to show the finger.

I’m one of the few here that’s for the pipeline. I pass for evil right wing anti environment.

Eco-socialism is the new big thing here. Don’t expect much.

Well, at least you know how your bread is buttered. It’s a start, I guess.
 

DiSmAnTLeR

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Peak oil enabled Alberta to make money off the tar sands for the first time. They have the most limited market of a major producer of Oil in the world as far as I’m aware, and they already got made to roll over in the 80s.

Ontario and Alberta are the workhorses of confederation. Alberta complains a bit more but they both get the shaft regularly from da feds.
LOL. I actually had to check if Ontario is considered a “have” province again or still a “have not”. It changes so often. Look up the last time that Alberta took an equalization payment and you might start to understand the grumbling.

Don’t tell Albertans, but Ontario is benefiting from a big loophole in the equalization formula