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  1. MC Gusto

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    To what I have seen, according to the accusations, @ConorMcGregorsBeard@ConorMcGregorsBeard is incorrect in his statement.

    I assumed anyone who would have responded had heard about the news story. It was all anyone was talking about yesterday on most Canadian news sites. Maybe I picked a shitty article to post, the intention was discussion on the topic, not the quality of the article.

    Good ol' assumptions.


    Wait, nowhere anywhere did it say any of the info shared was actually a threat to national security, certainly not a bomb threat against a pipeline. Info shared on those associated with groups protesting the pipeline is a far stretch from info on a specific threat against a pipeline. Feel free to show me if you seen info indicating the information share, both ways, was a specific bomb threat or anything similar.

    CSIS is not supposed to have any law enforcement power, they are a data collection and spy agency. If they find a specific credible threat, they pass it onto the RCMP, not a private oil company. The pipeline isnt build so its not like they had to inform the company of an impending bomb on site... duh

    *edit, CSIS has some but very minimal enforcement power created with controversy recently, but those enforcement powers wouldn't pertain to this situation so still no reason to inform an oil company of a hypothetical bomb threat against a pipe line that has not yet been built.
     
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    The news coverage I heard about it yesterday corroborated the quote I pulled from your posted article.


    I was making an analogy pointing out the absurdity of the idea that they were acting beyond their purview.

    Who said otherwise?

    From anything I've heard/read it wasn't a credible threat so nothing was passed along to anyone.
     
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    Allegations are, the findings of spying on activist groups by CSIS were shared with the NEB and petroleum companies.

    B.C. Civil Liberties Association releases Protest Papers showing CSIS surveillance of pipeline activists
    'This isn't about national security': Civil liberties group publishes CSIS reports related to alleged spying

    So non credible threats were shared with the oil companies.
     
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    Those are the allegations, not what happened. Again, from an article posted by you:

     
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    And whose fault is that buddy?!??! Why you always shutting down my pipeline?!?!?

    I never said CSIS has law enforcement abilities. I am aware they work hand in hand with the RCMP on issues of domestic terrorism.

    And there are many pipelines that could be bombed. Here are our oil pipelines:

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    Many pipelines yes, but the examples of CSIS over stepping and playing into the hands of private corporations are pretty specific in scope.
     
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    You're really overstating the seriousness of this story.
     
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    My business just reported u to CSIS bruv
     
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    Anyone hear Trudeau compare Indigenous people to children last week?
     
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    I'm having trouble finding the Globe and Mail article, but the wording was hilarious.
     
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    It's funny. Earlier this summer Doug Ford fired his chief advisor, the advisor went back the next day to get his shit out of his office and it was a 4 day news story about "He didn't really quit!" But not only is this barely being reported, everyone is pretending like it wasn't very clearly pre-planned.
     
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