Casuals & McGregortards are being sold a big ole bag of goods

[Wild]

By the UFC, Showtime, McGregor, and Malignaggi. And it's brilliant.

Step 1: Hire former world champion (who just so happens to work for Showtime), to be your main sparring partner.

Step 2: Leading up to sparring, have McGregor & Malignaggi throw insults at one another publicly so the anticipation grows.

Step 3: Create a storyline that McGregor's camp set Malignaggi up in 3rd world accommodations, made him fly coach, etc...and just so happened to allow photographers in the sparring sessions without Malignaggi's knowledge or consent.

Step 4: Have McGregor and Maliganaggi pose in some controversial photos that will make McGregortards cream their orange and green skivvies.

Step 5: "Leak" photo's to the public.

Step 6: Finish off the storyline by having Malignaggi unexpectedly storm out of camp because McGregor is unprofessional and disrespectful. Malignaggi's a pussy now that got his ass kicked by McGregor.

Step 7: Profit by shattering PPV numbers.

Step 8: Set up Malignaggi vs McGregor in MSG for Conor's second boxing match because although he couldn't beat Mayweather, he can surely beat the guy he toyed with in sparring & embarrassed so badly he stormed out of training camp.


Nobody is actually believing this shit, right? Wrong. I see tons of McGregortards and casuals on other forums & social media doing just that. McGregor, Floyd, Malignaggi, Showtime, and the UFC are laughing their asses off all the way to the bank.

 

[Disciplined Galt]

This is how fucking stupid people are in the age of clickbait. Probably always been like this, idiots just didn't have the voice of today.

 

[Qat]

Yep. And then please explain to me why the fight itself wouldn't be fixed either.

All WWE bullshit.

 

[Zeph]

Goddamn, the conspiratards are really riled up by this fight. It's just beyond their tiny little minds that McGregor might actually be good at punching, so they have to convince themselves with convoluted plots that there is some evil mastermind behind the scenes pulling the strings. Yet, Steven Espinoza can't go 2 press conferences without being labelled a weasel for life, and Danus hasn't known how to do anything other than throw fighters under the bus since 2008. Tactical geniuses they are not.

 

[lueVelvet]

I don't think it was all planned as you're describing it. Shit just went down and details are one sided at the moment. It's no big deal to believe Conor would act like Conor to a boxing pro in camp. He shows little respect for anything anyway, why would Paulie's story be so unbelievable? lol

 

[Atto]

And there are fools who thought Conor can never beat Aldo , Eddie etc . Now these fools think Conor has 0% chance of beating Mayweather. Fools will remain fools.

 

[GSPTrainingInAPool]

Now these fools think Conor has 0% chance of beating Mayweather. Fools will remain fools.

Conor has the knock out power to finish it off. I'm giving him a 10% chance at victory as anything can happen.

It's fun to get into these conspiracy theories though - at least it is for me. In the day of entertainment over truth I think that there might be something on behind the scenes. Maybe not as high level as OP but for sure there's a calculated plan to drive PPV buys, merch sales, etc.

 

[Disciplined Galt]

SN bet bitches? I've got the munchkin for dec after 12, or the fight nt happening. I don't lose bets.

 

[Disciplined Galt]

I know more about fighting than anyone here.

 

[nuraknu]

For sure McGregor has a master plan regardless of whether Showtime and UFC have one. Until he opens up about it down the road, we won't know if everything is actually falling in line for his plan or not.

Didn't Showtime do Strikeforce? Maybe Conor and Lorenzo will start something with them.

 

[Onetrickpony]

For sure McGregor has a master plan regardless of whether Showtime and UFC have one. Until he opens up about it down the road, we won't know if everything is actually falling in line for his plan or not.

Didn't Showtime do Strikeforce? Maybe Conor and Lorenzo will start something with them.

Pikeforce.

 

[kneeblock]

McGregor/Malignanni would not get Conor the $$ he'll want post Floyd.

 

[Team Bisping]

I'm here for the circus, and we're getting it.

Conor like:

 

[La Paix]

" make McGregortards cream their orange and green skivvies."

 

[Zeph]

For sure McGregor has a master plan regardless of whether Showtime and UFC have one. Until he opens up about it down the road, we won't know if everything is actually falling in line for his plan or not.

Didn't Showtime do Strikeforce? Maybe Conor and Lorenzo will start something with them.

Lorenzo is still a non-insignificant stakeholder with the UFC. Talk is that WME-IMG only bought a controlling share of 51%, which would be the $2.2bil loan they took out initially. Leaving the Fertitta's with a lot of cash and something like 14-5% each, Dana with 8-9%, the Sheik with 10%, yet all those stakes increased in value significantly because of the sale price. I don't see him starting up a competing organization anytime soon.

 

[jasonthehart]

I personally don't buy this narrative. Casual fans are not paying attention to this story. It won't help sell the fight, because the hardcore fanbase will watch it anyway or bootleg it like they were already planning. It appeared on Undisputed and on First Take which is a casual audience, but those only get a couple hundred thousand viewers at best and another few hundred thousand views online in most cases. Casual fans aren't watching it.

Only the hardcore fans care about what's going on in training camps.

 

[Andrewsimar Palhardass]

So why, in a fight where the goal of the buildup (even on Floyd's side) has been to pump up McGregor as having a legitimate chance, would they conspire to have Paulie Malignaggi, who is a great fighter but isn't on Floyd's level, come out and say he beat Conor's ass in sparring? They understand that the best way to sell this fight is to paint the possibility of Conor winning as more likely than it is. This would go completely against that idea.

I think you're partially correct, in the sense that I don't think Conor would be against a fight with Paulie after fighting Mayweather, and Paulie would certainly take that fight himself. Aside from that though, I think it's kind of ridiculous to think that "only casuals and McGregortards" disagree with you. Sounds like you're just scared to be a mark.

I think Paulie is trying to save face, and I think some of what he's saying is true and some of it is exaggerated. His story has changed multiple times from Twitter to his interviews. The bottom line though, is that none of us know what actually happened so to act like anybody who disagrees with you is foolish is, well.... foolish.

 

[Dat Pre-HollyHolm Ronda $]

By the UFC, Showtime, McGregor, and Malignaggi. And it's brilliant.

Step 1: Hire former world champion (who just so happens to work for Showtime), to be your main sparring partner.

Step 2: Leading up to sparring, have McGregor & Malignaggi throw insults at one another publicly so the anticipation grows.

Step 3: Create a storyline that McGregor's camp set Malignaggi up in 3rd world accommodations, made him fly coach, etc...and just so happened to allow photographers in the sparring sessions without Malignaggi's knowledge or consent.

Step 4: Have McGregor and Maliganaggi pose in some controversial photos that will make McGregortards cream their orange and green skivvies.

Step 5: "Leak" photo's to the public.

Step 6: Finish off the storyline by having Malignaggi unexpectedly storm out of camp because McGregor is unprofessional and disrespectful. Malignaggi's a pussy now that got his ass kicked by McGregor.

Step 7: Profit by shattering PPV numbers.

Step 8: Set up Malignaggi vs McGregor in MSG for Conor's second boxing match because although he couldn't beat Mayweather, he can surely beat the guy he toyed with in sparring & embarrassed so badly he stormed out of training camp.


Nobody is actually believing this shit, right? Wrong. I see tons of McGregortards and casuals on other forums & social media doing just that. McGregor, Floyd, Malignaggi, Showtime, and the UFC are laughing their asses off all the way to the bank.

Haha... This is what my gut tells me. This has gotta be a brilliant hype job

 

[Wild]

I personally don't buy this narrative. Casual fans are not paying attention to this story. It won't help sell the fight, because the hardcore fanbase will watch it anyway or bootleg it like they were already planning. It appeared on Undisputed and on First Take which is a casual audience, but those only get a couple hundred thousand viewers at best and another few hundred thousand views online in most cases. Casual fans aren't watching it.

Only the hardcore fans care about what's going on in training camps.

I respectfully disagree. Check Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, the UG, r/MMA. It's all people are talking about and the majority of people on those platforms are from from hardcores. Those platforms are mostly made up of noob casuals.

 

[Ceiling Fan]

There's a sucker born every minute.

 

[Dat Pre-HollyHolm Ronda $]

You know what everyone isn't focused on at all though?

Floyd's camp.... Its quiet as a mouse pissing on cotton in Floyd's camp

Is it possible we get a "right circumstances" "motivated" Floyd Mayweather this fight?

 

[jasonthehart]

I respectfully disagree. Check Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, the UG, r/MMA. It's all people are talking about and the majority of people on those platforms are from from hardcores. Those platforms are mostly made up of noob casuals.

I would suppose it's all in how you define casuals, but I wouldn't consider r/MMA, the UG, or fan MMA channels, the casual group. On Twitter, the only people I personally know talking about it are hardcore fans, none of the folks I went to college with or elsewhere. Same with Facebook. Even the biggest FB groups that I'm a part of are only a few thousand people.

I think of casuals as people who watch only the big fights or if it happens to be on TV when they are home on a Saturday night.

 

[Wild]

So why, in a fight where the goal of the buildup (even on Floyd's side) has been to pump up McGregor as having a legitimate chance, would they conspire to have Paulie Malignaggi, who is a great fighter but isn't on Floyd's level, come out and say he beat Conor's ass in sparring?.

To plant the seed of confusion and controversy. Listen to Paulie's interview in The MMA Hour. He says Conor hit him with some hard shots and probably won 5 rounds in the middle of the session, and then the last 2 because Paulie "gassed". So there's 7 rounds Paulie says Conor won, while landing a lot of hard shots. And that's the narrative everyone is talking about. Go check out the platforms that I mentioned...it's mostly "Paulie left cause he got his ass beat", "Paulie got punked", "Thats a former world champion Conor just owned...he really does have a chance against Mayweather".

Now maybe they're all right and Conor is really this skilled in boxing. Maybe he is so good Paulie went running scared after two days. Maybe he'll KO Mayweather.

But I'm not buying it. This is boxing and the UFC, who are one notch above pro wrestling when it comes to promoting story lines. How many Mayweather fights have they suckered millions into buying, when history proves he's a boring decision machine? How many fights has the UFC suckered people into buying that we all knew would be one sided or suck?

Not buying it. If McGregor proves to be ultra competitive on 8/26, I will be right here to eat my words.

 

[Zeph]

I would suppose it's all in how you define casuals, but I wouldn't consider r/MMA, the UG, or fan MMA channels, the casual group. On Twitter, the only people I personally know talking about it are hardcore fans, none of the folks I went to college with or elsewhere. Same with Facebook. Even the biggest FB groups that I'm a part of are only a few thousand people.

I think of casuals as people who watch only the big fights or if it happens to be on TV when they are home on a Saturday night.

My decidedly casual brother-in-law knew about the 'knockdown' of Paulie in camp.

 

[Andrewsimar Palhardass]

To plant the seed of confusion and controversy. Listen to Paulie's interview in The MMA Hour. He says Conor hit him with some hard shots and probably won 5 rounds in the middle of the session, and then the last 2 because Paulie "gassed". So there's 7 rounds Paulie says Conor won, while landing a lot of hard shots. And that's the narrative everyone is talking about. Go check out the platforms that I mentioned...it's mostly "Paulie left cause he got his ass beat", "Paulie got punked", "Thats a former world champion Conor just owned...he really does have a chance against Mayweather".

Now maybe they're all right and Conor is really this skilled in boxing. Maybe he is so good Paulie went running scared after two days. Maybe he'll KO Mayweather.

But I'm not buying it. This is boxing and the UFC, who are one notch above pro wrestling when it comes to promoting story lines. How many Mayweather fights have they suckered millions into buying, when history proves he's a boring decision machine? How many fights has the UFC suckered people into buying that we all knew would be one sided or suck?

Not buying it. If McGregor proves to be ultra competitive on 8/26, I will be right here to eat my words.

I listened to Paulie's interview.

Have you seen Paulie's Twitter? He's said multiple times that Conor got his ass beat, and that Conor whimpers like a bitch when hit to the body.

If Paulie was being paid to pump McGregor up, he would have said he was in shape the whole time, and he wouldn't contradict himself on his Twitter page. I think there's truth and falsehoods all over what he's saying, and it's not as calculated as you think it is. If there's anything that they learned from the press conferences, it's that you can try to control the narrative, but you can't predict public reaction. This is too contradictory to be very calculated.

He pumps McGregor up on the MMA Hour, according to you. Why would he send him to an MMA outlet to do that? McGregor's fans are already there. They're pumping up an echo chamber, and on Paulie's Twitter (where there are more boxing fans), he's allowed to trash the guy and say he beat his ass? I think the cynicism and sensationalism surrounding this fight is starting to get to people.