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Dat Pre-HollyHolm Ronda $ @Dat Pre-HollyHolm Ronda $ I expect a detailed critique of those links on my desk in the morning.

Just put it on top of the cigarette butts and keyboard

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Not sure what you are asking.

The papers on CRT you presented are what I'm accustomed to reading from my niece
and are congruent with what I stated including that it is only taught as a theoritical
concept and higher academic levels

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PS - Clean that desk!
 
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Daniel A. Farber and Suzanna Sherry argue that critical race theory lacks supporting evidence, relies on an implausible belief that reality is socially constructed, rejects evidence in favor of storytelling, rejects truth and merit as expressions of political dominance, and rejects the rule of law. Additionally, they posit that the anti-meritocratic tenets in critical race theory, critical feminism, and critical legal studies may unintentionally lead to antisemiticand anti-Asian implications.[47][48][8] In particular, they suggest that the success of Jews and Asians within what critical race theorists argue is a structurally unfair system may lend itself to allegations of cheating, advantage-taking, or other such claims. A series of responses to Farber and Sherry was published in the Harvard Law Review.[49]These responses argue that there is a difference between criticizing an unfair system and criticizing individuals who perform well inside that system.[8][49] In the Boston College Law Review, Jeffrey Pyle argues that critical race theory undermines confidence in the rule of law, saying that "critical race theorists attack the very foundations of the liberal legal order, including equality theory, legal reasoning, Enlightenment rationalism and neutral principles of constitutional law".[50]

By jurists
Judge Richard Posner of the U.S. Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals argued in 1997 that critical race theory "turns its back on the Western tradition of rational inquiry, forswearing analysis for narrative", and that "by repudiating reasoned argumentation, [critical race theorists] reinforce stereotypes about the intellectual capacities of nonwhites."[9] Former Judge Alex Kozinski, who served on the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, criticized critical race theorists in 1997 for raising "insuperable barriers to mutual understanding" and thus eliminating opportunities for "meaningful dialogue".[51]
Upon further review and after your most generously surmised
and studious clarification, I do have a thought to which I feel qualified
to expand upon and engage in disputation.

CRT as described in the above referenced papers appears to indeed be a complex
theoretical framework with the intent of both discussing and indirectly addressing the
social construct of "racism". Specifically racism in America

Racism being defined hereto as - Racism, also called racialism, the belief that humans may be divided into separate and exclusive biological entities called “races”; that there is a causal link between inherited physical traits and traits of personality, intellect, morality, and other cultural and behavioral features; and that some races are innately superior to others. The term is also applied to political, economic, or legal institutions and systems that engage in or perpetuate discrimination on the basis of race or otherwise reinforce racial inequalities in wealth and income, education, health care, civil rights, and other areas. Such institutional, structural, or systemic racism.
RACISM | DEFINITION, HISTORY, LAWS, & FACTS
In-text: (racism | Definition, History, Laws, & Facts, 2021)

Ref: Encyclopedia Britannica. 2021. racism | Definition, History, Laws, & Facts. [online]
Available at: <racism | Definition, History, Laws, & Facts> [Accessed 18 June 2021].

To wit my hypothesis is that CRT is far too complex to be rationally discussed on a MMA forum
and posting format and furthermore even less agreeable to parties not having credentials or
scholarship in said academic theoretical concept.

That said... To quote the eloquent Michael Myers via Austin Powers Gold Member

"I do have some thoughts"

Ref:
AUSTIN POWERS IN GOLDMEMBER (2002) - IMDB
In-text: (Austin Powers in Goldmember (2002) - IMDb, 2021)
IMDb. 2021. Austin Powers in Goldmember (2002) - IMDb. [online] Available at: <Austin Powers in Goldmember (2002) - IMDb> [Accessed 18 June 2021]

Said thoughts being the disputation of CRT as a "social construct".

Social constructs are abstract by nature. Any construct of homo sapiens
would by order of congruence be also defined as a "social construct".

In explanation we accredit (We being society) Special Relativity
to Albert Einstein as a self construct... ie a construct constructed as
"self" and independent of "other" as in a societal "vacuum"

However one might argue that Albert Einstein functionally having a state
of "being", that is to infer a state of"mind" was also part of a larger social
construct and framework.

Tis indeed Einstein who birthed "Relativity", however such a fantastical work
and construct could not have been completed without the work and social
framework of those both around and before said mind

That is to say any construct within Homo Sapien's creation is a social construct
by definition. The self does not exist in a vacuum. The self is always a reflection
of the "other". The other being the social framework therein.

Ultimately I would say that CRT is an esoteric, albeit, social contruct birthed from
a wider social contruct of racism
to which much pondering, observance and
musing is left undone.

In Summary: I can neither with confidence confirm nor deny the validity
of either argument proposed herein.
 
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Freeloading Rusty

Here comes Rover, sniffin’ at your ass
Jan 11, 2016
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Capitol storming couple who declared ‘this is war’ are arrested by the FBI
Someone giving a tip to the FBI said that a video exists of the Getsingers entering the Capitol building yelling, “This is War! We’re storming the Capitol!” according to an FBI affidavit.

Another tipster told the FBI that Stacie Getsinger made a post on her Facebook page which read, “The [presidential] election was rigged, and this ain’t over.”
 

sparkuri

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Capitol storming couple who declared ‘this is war’ are arrested by the FBI
Someone giving a tip to the FBI said that a video exists of the Getsingers entering the Capitol building yelling, “This is War! We’re storming the Capitol!” according to an FBI affidavit.

Another tipster told the FBI that Stacie Getsinger made a post on her Facebook page which read, “The [presidential] election was rigged, and this ain’t over.”
It is war.

You gonna turn me in you freeloader?
 
Nov 21, 2015
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Capitol storming couple who declared ‘this is war’ are arrested by the FBI
Someone giving a tip to the FBI said that a video exists of the Getsingers entering the Capitol building yelling, “This is War! We’re storming the Capitol!” according to an FBI affidavit.

Another tipster told the FBI that Stacie Getsinger made a post on her Facebook page which read, “The [presidential] election was rigged, and this ain’t over.”

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yr1o8fnjNN8
 
Nov 21, 2015
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Glad they put this fuck in prison

Man who sucker-punched 12-year-old boy
who was dancing gets 7 years in prison



View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3omnYcQYw8
 

sparkuri

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Yeah Fuck Cops

Admittedly biased and hatefull towards cops.

American cops specifically. Cops in all the other countries I have lived
have treated me like a human being. Its only in America where I wouldn't
cross the street to piss a fire out on a cop

That is too bad.
I've been treated as bad or worse than anyone I know by American cops.
I've also been treated as bad or worse as anyone I know by black people.
But I've also been treated as good or better by both.
That known, I'm fortunate to be able to think critically about the totality of both social situations, although cops took me much longer.

I've been a member of copblock.org for well over 10 years.
Institutionally they are victims of an oppressive system from the top down.
Without a moral compass they are doomed to become part of it, becoming abusive & corrupt.
And with one, they are guaranteed low pay, horrible quality of life with horrible hours, abuse inside and outside the department, and generally nowhere to go with their dilemma.

Having been arrested over 40 times, having spent a year of my life under concrete detention, and having come out the other side with firsthand knowledge of the psychology of crime, inmates, "the beat", and success afterward, I can say with conviction and without a doubt, it is purposeful & political.

I judge everyone on their merit, and cannot say I hate cops at all.
The politics behind it all are the same orchestrators behind everything we see that's morally wrong while propagating moral virtue.
It's intentional and nefarious, because without the well-regulated militia our constitution requires of us to keep any semblance of a republic, cops are our last line of defense, knowing that shortly they become citizens under the same boot.
 

sparkuri

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Nah, you’re not the type to pose a threat to any able bodied adult.

You know the type: loud as a motorbike but wouldn't bust a grape in a fruit fight.
Ohhh yeah.
I know the type.

We call them "mooches", or "freeloaders".
 
Nov 21, 2015
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That is too bad.
I've been treated as bad or worse than anyone I know by American cops.
I've also been treated as bad or worse as anyone I know by black people.
But I've also been treated as good or better by both.
That known, I'm fortunate to be able to think critically about the totality of both social situations, although cops took me much longer.

I've been a member of copblock.org for well over 10 years.
Institutionally they are victims of an oppressive system from the top down.
Without a moral compass they are doomed to become part of it, becoming abusive & corrupt.
And with one, they are guaranteed low pay, horrible quality of life with horrible hours, abuse inside and outside the department, and generally nowhere to go with their dilemma.

Having been arrested over 40 times, having spent a year of my life under concrete detention, and having come out the other side with firsthand knowledge of the psychology of crime, inmates, "the beat", and success afterward, I can say with conviction and without a doubt, it is purposeful & political.

I judge everyone on their merit, and cannot say I hate cops at all.
The politics behind it all are the same orchestrators behind everything we see that's morally wrong while propagating moral virtue.
It's intentional and nefarious, because without the well-regulated militia our constitution requires of us to keep any semblance of a republic, cops are our last line of defense, knowing that shortly they become citizens under the same boot.
Sounds like a world of experience. Keep growing from it.

I've been treated both greatly and poorly by all races as well.

But fuck an American cop of any race.

Never once met one that looked at me as human.

They can all eat a dick
 

John Lee Pettimore

Further south than you
May 18, 2021
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Glad they put this fuck in prison

Man who sucker-punched 12-year-old boy
who was dancing gets 7 years in prison



View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3omnYcQYw8
He needs to be thrown in jail, and publicly shamed. Not least because his 200 pound ass sucker-punched a 12 year old from behind and apparently didn't even really ring his bell.

Also, where the fuck were this kid's parents? When I was 12, I sure as hell wasn't hanging out on random street corners at night.

??
 
Nov 21, 2015
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He needs to be thrown in jail, and publicly shamed. Not least because his 200 pound ass sucker-punched a 12 year old from behind and apparently didn't even really ring his bell.

Also, where the fuck were this kid's parents? When I was 12, I sure as hell wasn't hanging out on random street corners at night.

??
The guy that was sitting on the ground with the other kid
is his guardian and dance coach if memory serves correct
 
Nov 21, 2015
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Do you have my reports ready?!?

Upon further review and after your most generously surmised
and studious clarification, I do have a thought to which I feel qualified
to expand upon and engage in disputation.

CRT as described in the above referenced papers appears to indeed be a complex
theoretical framework with the intent of both discussing and indirectly addressing the
social construct of "racism". Specifically racism in America

Racism being defined hereto as - Racism, also called racialism, the belief that humans may be divided into separate and exclusive biological entities called “races”; that there is a causal link between inherited physical traits and traits of personality, intellect, morality, and other cultural and behavioral features; and that some races are innately superior to others. The term is also applied to political, economic, or legal institutions and systems that engage in or perpetuate discrimination on the basis of race or otherwise reinforce racial inequalities in wealth and income, education, health care, civil rights, and other areas. Such institutional, structural, or systemic racism.
RACISM | DEFINITION, HISTORY, LAWS, & FACTS
In-text: (racism | Definition, History, Laws, & Facts, 2021)

Ref: Encyclopedia Britannica. 2021. racism | Definition, History, Laws, & Facts. [online]
Available at: <racism | Definition, History, Laws, & Facts> [Accessed 18 June 2021].

To wit my hypothesis is that CRT is far too complex to be rationally discussed on a MMA forum
and posting format and furthermore even less agreeable to parties not having credentials or
scholarship in said academic theoretical concept.

That said... To quote the eloquent Michael Myers via Austin Powers Gold Member

"I do have some thoughts"

Ref:
AUSTIN POWERS IN GOLDMEMBER (2002) - IMDB
In-text: (Austin Powers in Goldmember (2002) - IMDb, 2021)
IMDb. 2021. Austin Powers in Goldmember (2002) - IMDb. [online] Available at: <Austin Powers in Goldmember (2002) - IMDb> [Accessed 18 June 2021]

Said thoughts being the disputation of CRT as a "social construct".

Social constructs are abstract by nature. Any construct of homo sapiens
would by order of congruence be also defined as a "social construct".

In explanation we accredit (We being society) Special Relativity
to Albert Einstein as a self construct... ie a construct constructed as
"self" and independent of "other" as in a societal "vacuum"

However one might argue that Albert Einstein functionally having a state
of "being", that is to infer a state of"mind" was also part of a larger social
construct and framework.

Tis indeed Einstein who birthed "Relativity", however such a fantastical work
and construct could not have been completed without the work and social
framework of those both around and before said mind

That is to say any construct within Homo Sapien's creation is a social construct
by definition. The self does not exist in a vacuum. The self is always a reflection
of the "other". The other being the social framework therein.

Ultimately I would say that CRT is an esoteric, albeit, social contruct birthed from
a wider social construct of racism
to which much pondering, observance and
musing is left undone.

In Summary: I can neither with confidence confirm nor deny the validity
of either argument proposed herein.
 
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