Society Cleanup of Pence family gas stations cost Indiana more than $20 million

[Papi Chingon]

I think his point is also one that I agree with and it's the one that drives me absolutely insane about so many internet discussions.

His point is that this particular topic had nothing to do with Obama but the thread was turned to him anyway.

Every time someone brings up Clinton people start spewing unrelated shit towards Trump or Bush.

If they bring up Trump then it's turned towards Clinton or Obama, etc.

It's all bullshit. It's almost impossible for people to talk about a specific topic without people immediately jumping in and pointing fingers at an opposing side. It accomplishes nothing.

It doesn't even have to be political but that's where it's the most obvious. If I make a positive comment about something the UFC did then someone rushes to bash them about something different and talk about how amazing Bellator is while ignoring their shortcomings.

We seem to lack the ability to remain objective and remain on topic anymore.

In this instance, a company that Pence's family controlled for a period of time stuck Indiana with a bill.

Also, since it veered this way. Obama, justified or not, increased the fuck out of the deficit and ultimately affected my paycheck. Doing so also helped my father and screwed my mother over.

So...

Everyone sucks. Especially when it leads to divisiveness due to everyone being so defensive that they can't see that everyone sucks.

Chevron techron supreme is superior gasoline to the garbage the Pence family was selling.

 

[Hauler]

Mike STARTED working there at 14.

If Mike Pence was just a regular employee, why did he lose $600,000 when it went bankrupt?

I don't know. Stock Options?

I own shares of Altria. If they get found guilty of killing millions of people with their cancer sticks, am I responsible?

 

[Freeloading Rusty]

I don't know. Stock Options?

I own shares of Altria. If they get found guilty of killing millions of people with their cancer sticks, am I responsible?

Does your family also own Altria and did you work there?

 

[Freeloading Rusty]

Kiel Bros was a Sub-S family business, according to financial disclosure statements filed by Congressman Mike Pence.

According to the official list of creditors filed September 22, 2006, total claims registered against the Pence family business was in excess of $102 million.

Six months after the bankruptcy filing, Governor Mitch Daniels appointed Greg Pence, the former chief executive officer of Kiel Brothers Oil, to be second in command of the Indiana Department of Environmental Management.

IN-06 Pence Family Owed 9 Million to Indiana Citizens (NEW SCANDAL)

 

[Zeph]

Good news is that because of the Supreme Court they’ll be but trumping for the next 40 years.

After seeing what the Republicans have pulled in the last few years then any Democrat with balls will just pack the court once the Republicans lose. It doesn't say anywhere in the Constitution that the court must only have 9 people, in fact, it's increased in size over time.

 

[SuperPig]

Chevron techron supreme is superior gasoline to the garbage the Pence family was selling.

Fucker haha

 

[member 1013]

Everyone ITT is missing the real issue:


HOW MANY TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN MUSLIM OBAMA PHONES DID HILARY KILL THAT BILL RAPED

 

[Hauler]

Does your family also own Altria and did you work there?

No. I wish they did.

 

[ConorMcGregor NutHugger]

No hate here, and I'm sorry to have ruffled your feathers.

Lol, try harder. Or just blame Obama.

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

In for the “what about Obama?” or “what about her emails?”

But, bro. What about the emails?

Did I do it right?

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

In all seriousness, it shouldn't be a tit for tat proposition, but I see a lot of people complaining about thing who completely looked the other way when it was "their guy".

 

[ConorMcGregor NutHugger]

But, bro. What about the emails?

Did I do it right?

As you can see by the quote in question I included that.

 

[ConorMcGregor NutHugger]

In all seriousness, it shouldn't be a tit for tat proposition, but I see a lot of people complaining about thing who completely looked the other way when it was "their guy".

Again I ask do two wrongs make a right?

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

Again I ask do two wrongs make a right?

As with most things, it depends.

Hypocrisy however never has a place.

 

[ConorMcGregor NutHugger]

As with most things, it depends.

Hypocrisy however never has a place.

Lol, read that out loud. It depends?

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

Lol, read that out loud. It depends?

Yes, it depends on the surrounding circumstances. It's what the legal system is based on.

 

[ConorMcGregor NutHugger]

Yes, it depends on the surrounding circumstances. It's what the legal system is based on.

So your wrong is justified against mine even though they are both wrong? Legal system is based on property and corporate interests.

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

So your wrong is justified against mine even though they are both wrong?

In some cases, yes. Again, this is what the legal system is based on.

If someone attacked you, would you not defend yourself?

 

[ConorMcGregor NutHugger]

In some cases, yes. Again, this is what the legal system is based on.

If someone attacked you, would you not defend yourself?

So this business deal that was wrong is OK because Obama? Is that the legal system?
Don’t understand the me being attacked as me being in the wrong.

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

So this business deal that was wrong is OK because Obama?

I never said anything about this business deal.

Don’t understand the me being attacked as me being in the wrong.

Well, if someone punches you in the face. That would be wrong. You punching someone else in the face is also wrong. However, given the circumstances, your wrong is completely acceptable. A simple example of 2 wrongs making a right, hence my previous statement that "it depends".

 

[ConorMcGregor NutHugger]

I never said anything about this business deal.



Well, if someone punches you in the face. That would be wrong. You punching someone else in the face is also wrong. However, given the circumstances, your wrong is completely acceptable. A simple example of 2 wrongs making a right, hence my previous statement that "it depends".

You know this thread is about Indiana loss of about 20 million on a business deal that happens to involve VP Pence family. People where quick to say Obama. No doubt damn that Obama but does that make this right?

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

No doubt damn that Obama but does that make this right?

I never said anything about Obama as it pertains to this situation. I was simply pointing out that the same people who seem to harp on everything the Trump administration does were the same ones whom were mum when Obama was threatening illegal immigrants, prosecuting whistleblowers, and giving money to shady businesses. When people point out the faults while ignoring their own, it is something attention should be brought to.

 

[ConorMcGregor NutHugger]

I never said anything about Obama as it pertains to this situation. I was simply pointing out that the same people who seem to harp on everything the Trump administration does were the same ones whom were mum when Obama was threatening illegal immigrants, prosecuting whistleblowers, and giving money to shady businesses.

Yeah, that thread is that way. Also got this
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