Could One of Our Resident Dope Heads Clarify (Re: Nate Smoking)

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  1. KWingJitsu

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    View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuxJMM75Dvg


    Ummmm am I missing something here?
    Or is he not flirting with a positive test???
    I'm not a pot head loser, so I honestly don't know - I believe you can't be high on fight night, or it can't be in your system (withing 24 hours of the fight?), but seriously ... wtf is he doing?
    (Pettis by showtime kick KO please)
     
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  2. BJTT_Kiwi

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    One of 3 options:

    If you already know you’re going to fail, then why not fail in a very public manner (and make good $ as a brand ambassador).

    If you know you’re going to pass, then why not stir the pot and make some headlines.
    (It’s reported to be CBD from his own line, which is fine)

    I forgot what the third one was. I’m a bit high.
     
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  3. ender852

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    Venue for fight is in California. Recreational weed is legal in California.
     
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  4. Ricky Bobby

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    It was cbd

    He said “weed is for after the fight, ha ha”
     
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  5. lueVelvet

    lueVelvet WHERT DA FERCK?

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    Yes but it's still not permitted "in competition".
     
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    'i'm so high right now'

    ^used to be a go-to phrase on the internet when anything got too confusing to bother with
     
  7. lordofthepies

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    Marijuana culture is weird. I support full drug decriminalization and understand that there are medical conditions it helps with. But people go way too far with the 'it's harmless' routine.

    I've been to nuthouses visiting a family member with marijuana-induced psychosis and watched it nearly ruin his life. That's after being mates with another guy that happened to as a teenager, who ended up killing himself.

    I'm not sure how anyone can see Nate smoke, then listen to him talk and go 'that guy's fucking cool - one day I want to be completely incomprehensible just like him'.
     
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    sorry to hear about the serious bit. re: nate - ouch ouch LOL
     
  9. lueVelvet

    lueVelvet WHERT DA FERCK?

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    The weed didn't cause him to speak the way he does. I think plenty of people have smoked weed their whole lives and not wound up in a nuthouse. Your whole "look at the extremes" approach doesn't work when 99.9999% of folks who smoke weed wind up eating a little more than usual rather than being committed.
     
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  10. Twelve Twenty Four

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    Believe it or not some people with mental issues use it to make themselves feel better, i.e. relief from anxiety, lack of sleep, depression etc etc. Its quite silly to instantly blame weed for mental health issues. Isnt it possible tht weed just wasnt enough to help those guys? Isnt it possible that its the system that failed them and as a results they smoked weed to help them get through the day?
    Think twice, speak once.
    Peace out
     
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  13. Outlaw Shit

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    Hemp has less than 1% THC...and up to 20% CBD

    UFC has their own CBD products now I believe

    Not sure the testing threshold for CBD


    Jones tests positive for Coke and is allowed to fight so I don't think this is a big deal

    Nate kinda giving the UFC and Haters a lil middle finger...as he is known to do
     
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  14. Outlaw Shit

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    Nate seems to have a slight speech impediment IMO...I think he has been speaking like that since he was a young human

    Dude can scrap and always entertains
     
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  15. lordofthepies

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    I was only saying look at the extremes to people who think Marijuana is harmless and reminding people that it still has the potential to be very dangerous if abused. Just as some people try go all Reefer Madness, others go too far the other way and downplay it too much.

    Studies have shown that marijuana use can impact speech too. Neither you nor I know how much, if at all, it has affected Nate or Nick. But it might have.

    My point was more that having a guy who sounds like he's smoked himself retarded (whether or not he has) being an ambassador for marijuana use should give people more pause than it does.
     
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    "Studies have shown"...

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  17. lordofthepies

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    Lol - this could be a good troll but I'll bite.

    Drug-induced pyschosis is a thing. There's using drugs to self-medicate, and then there's suddenly coming home one evening laughing hysterically and ranting that the Saudi Arabian government is trying to steal your thoughts.
     
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  18. Twelve Twenty Four

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    you missed the point, but its ok.
    show me the formula that says Brain + Weed = Psychosis and then we can talk until then have a nice day
     
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  19. lordofthepies

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    That's not a study, it's an online magazine article. Here's what an actual study looks like, notice it's not easy to read, i.e. not best for click-bait sites.

    "Questions surrounding the effects of chronic marijuana use on brain structure continue to increase. To date, however, findings remain inconclusive. In this comprehensive study that aimed to characterize brain alterations associated with chronic marijuana use, we measured gray matter (GM) volume via structural MRI across the whole brain by using voxel-based morphology, synchrony among abnormal GM regions during resting state via functional connectivity MRI, and white matter integrity (i.e., structural connectivity) between the abnormal GM regions via diffusion tensor imaging in 48 marijuana users and 62 age- and sex-matched nonusing controls. The results showed that compared with controls, marijuana users had significantly less bilateral orbitofrontal gyri volume, higher functional connectivity in the orbitofrontal cortex (OFC) network, and higher structural connectivity in tracts that innervate the OFC (forceps minor) as measured by fractional anisotropy (FA). Increased OFC functional connectivity in marijuana users was associated with earlier age of onset." PDF
     
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  21. lordofthepies

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    I didn't miss the point at all mate. I think you struggle with reading comprehension -but you're probably high, so it's ok. Marijuana is linked to increased risk of psychosis and drug-induced psychosis exists.

    As for your silly little formula, you are asking for something that nobody can provide, and it doesn't make you clever.

    It's true that we can't definitively 'prove' that in each individual case that a psychotic break was 'caused' by marijuana. We just know that somebody abusing it is more likely to experience one. However, mental health practioners - not being retards - will treat somebody who has no history of mental illness, but is abusing drugs, and suddenly has a psychotic break as having drug-induced psychosis, even if it's possible that the two phenomena are unrelated.

    You should read up on this basic science rather than making inane points to some other dipshit on an MMA forum.
     
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    And what the hell is the difference?
    Which one will test positive for 'marijuana metabolites' - i.e. the same shit his brother got suspended for & an overturned result?
     
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  24. lueVelvet

    lueVelvet WHERT DA FERCK?

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    It's great to make all of these assumptions (from both camps) but none of it matters if we can't effectively study the effects if the government continues to make it impossible to do so. With that said, I have a hard time believing that any reasonable use of MJ will lead to psychosis in any statistically significant number of people. If people are eating 500MG death stars multiple times per day, sure, they'll act funny, paranoid etc. But so do people who drink a handle of whiskey every day.
     
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    I only eat 5-10 mg edibles when I do...and that is only because I like a lil THC to go with my CBD for better results
     
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