Could One of Our Resident Dope Heads Clarify (Re: Nate Smoking)

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  1. lordofthepies

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    Lol. I know I was quoting an article referring to a study. I never committed to finding and posting journal articles for your benefit. I just said they existed and then said I have no idea if marijuana has altered Nate's speech in any way.

    Splinty, can you help me out here? I think these dipshits are starting to give me psychosis (although admittedly I think the link between increased dipshittery and psychosis needs more research).
     
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  2. Andrewsimar Palhardass

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    Not indoors in a public place like that.

    Either a) it was CBD and he's fine or B) It was pot, fight still happens, small suspension and fine. He ends up okay either way.
     
  3. Andrewsimar Palhardass

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    CBD is a molecule in the cannabis plant which carries many (if not all or more) of the medicinal benefits of marijuana but it doesn't get you high. People use it for things like inflammation and anxiety. It is not against USADA guidelines. THC is the psychoactive ingredient in marijuana, and separate from CBD. It is banned in-competition above a certain threshold. A lot of CBD products have a tiny bit of THC in them but likely not enough to get him flagged for a positive test.
     
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  4. Twelve Twenty Four

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    Hahaha, good one mate. you just made my point for me, looks like I don't even need to be sober for this debate.
    and BTW I am verrrrrrry clever...….you have no idea young man
     
  5. Andrewsimar Palhardass

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    You were witness to two very rare situations which were likely (if anything) exacerbated by marijuana use, but not necessarily caused by marijuana use.

    It affects different people in different ways, depending on a lot of things, including genetics, method of absorption, age, frequency, and many others. It has been shown to raise the risk of certain issues similar to what you describe, but much of the research is a "chicken or egg" situation. In my experience, and research, it seems as though chronic use while the brain is developing (before 25 or so) can affect the way that the brain functions. Either way, in my opinion, there is a very big chance that your loved ones were predisposed to the terrible things that they went through, and marijuana use didn't help. Obviously not definitive.
     
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    Mucho Gracias.
     
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  7. Twelve Twenty Four

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    like I said before show me the formula Brain + Dipshittery = Psychosis and then we can talk , until then have a nice day buddy :)
     
  8. tang

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    People always want to demonize cannabis more than other substances.

    “Marijuana makes you a loser if you use it all the time, all you become is couch potato and sleep and eat all day”

    Yet, totally dismisses what happens to a person when they drink all day. Or smoke meth all day
    Or do heroine all day
    Or pop pills all day
    Or eat sugar all day
    Or play video games all day

    If you abuse anything, you become a loser but still, when compared to all that, Marijuana is least damaging
     
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  9. tang

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    Why u hating? He’s doing it cuz it’s ok. He’s smoking non thc, CBD joint from his brand “Game Up”

    It’s like taking some omega3 pills to reduce inflammation.
     
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    ha, just glanced up at the tv in the pub and there's Ariel on ESPN reporting this as 'breaking news'!
     
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    agreed, but two things are worthy of consideration:

    1) that pesky schizophrenia issue does tend to raise its head alarmingly for some. if you are unaffected, you can bypass all that and not worry. but it is a legit concern.

    2) if you smoke and think it's ok, helps to blind you to the effects, which can reach further than the smoker might imagine.
     
  12. tang

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    good points. even Rogan admitted on the show that they've seen research results of people going through nervous breakdowns, but that's for those who was a pothead all their life.

    smoking is bad, I know this from personal experience. Its good to share joints with group of friends once in a blue moon but if you make it into everyday habit, like 5+ times a day probably damages the respiratory system. The weed joints are not even filtered so you're getting all that heat right into your lungs
     
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    I got high all day every day for about 12 years, then in my early 30s started getting panic attacks every time I smoked weed. Quit cold turkey, been about 7 years now since i quit
     
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    It was embarrassing how long it took me to figure out weed was a huge trigger, like 2 weeks.
     
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    you're confusing 'relatively harmless' with 'harmless'.

    And you're confusing 'might have' with 'could have'.
     
  16. lueVelvet

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    They talk about windows of efficacy for other meds and I think it applies with weed as well. Different circumstances in your life will definitely change how you react while your high. I’ve been through periods where it was causing me to panic, be more self conscious and way more paranoid so I stop for a while. I don’t make it a point to start back up rather it sort of happens naturally. I’ve gone ten years of all day ever day type of use down to nothing back up to just a little bit at night etc etc.

    I had a similar experience with drinking. I used to drink with the best of them up until my late 20’s but when I reached 30-ish it totally stopped working as a “fun” thing to do and just started making me ill. So I stopped and thankfully I’ve never made my way back to drinking any alcohol consistently. I just can’t stomach it much anymore. Maybe a beer with friends but anything more and I’m out and feel like shit the next day.

    Weed is a drug and like other drugs you must respect it. You need to listen to your body and mind when you do things and consider if it’s still right for you or not.
     
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  17. lordofthepies

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    Wow, I had more message alerts than the girl I'm stalking has when she wakes up. I really riled up these stoners. I thought you cunts were supposed to be mellow?

    But it is true to form - the only thing they seem to like talking about is getting high, so it makes sense that insulting their raison d'etre is worse than insulting their mothers.

    This is why it's better to talk to drinkers. Sure there's a decent chance they'll glass you in the face but at least they won't bore you to death before they do it.
     
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    5 ratings on 4 posts...don't cash it all at once

    I don't think anyone takes it seriously

    ratings are simply button clicks as we know

    I take it you are not a fan of Nate?
     
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  19. lordofthepies

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    I have no problem with Nate at all. The fact he has speech issues is just a fact, but it doesn't make him a bad bloke.
     
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