FACT: Jack Dempsey would have wiped out today's UFC HW division

[Ted Williams' head]

^Jack Dempsey mercilessly pummelling a man who is 6'7", 245lbs

Lets look at the facts

-chewed pine tar gum to strengthen his jaw and soaked his face in brine to toughen his skin.
-pimped his wife out for $$$ when the economy was bad
-beat up two young muggers when he was in his 70s

 

[Rambo John J]

bit small right?

maybe in his own weight class I could agree with 6 months sprawl training

 

[Ted Williams' head]

bit small right?

maybe in his own weight class I could agree with 6 months sprawl training

6'1" with 77" inch reach, which incidentally is the exact same as Cain

He was 190-195 but that was with 1920's nutrition. I reckon Jack would have been a solid 230 with today's diet. We're talking about a guy who spent a good portion of his adulthood as a hobo hitching rides on the back of trains.

 

[NHBStriker]

My avatar appreciates your confidence, but against even modern day heavyweight Boxing champions, much less UFC champions, he would have gotten his ass whooped.

 

[Ted Williams' head]

My avatar appreciates your confidence, but against even modern day heavyweight Boxing champions, much less UFC champions, he would have gotten his ass whooped.

Half these fellas can't take a punch (overeem), and the other half can't seem to throw a few punches without having a heart attack (ngannou).

Jack hit like a mack truck and was used to fighting for 15 rounds

 

[Gay For Longo]

^Jack Dempsey mercilessly pummelling a man who is 6'7", 245lbs

Lets look at the facts

-chewed pine tar gum to strengthen his jaw and soaked his face in brine to toughen his skin.
-pimped his wife out for $$$ when the economy was bad
-beat up two young muggers when he was in his 70s

Obviously an all time great but too small to deal with the best heavies since the Lewis era
If talking just today, he might be able to take some of them but guys like Lewis and both Klitchko take Dempsey

 

[Ted Williams' head]

Obviously an all time great but too small to deal with the best heavies since the Lewis era
If talking just today, he might be able to take some of them but guys like Lewis and both Klitchko take Dempsey

Oh yeah he'd get smoked by the giants in boxing today, I'm talking about the bums in the UFC

 

[La Paix]

Luke Rockhold subs him within 3 minutes.

 

[Ted Williams' head]

Jesus if he can't Bisping's power hows he gonna handle the Manassa Mauler?

 

[La Paix]

Jesus if he can't Bisping's power hows he gonna handle the Manassa Mauler?

Bisping would embarrass Jack on the feet unfortunately.

FACT: Combat athletes who were in thier prime pre 1980s would get shit kicked by todays gatekeepers.

The average CrossFit dad has a better diet and S&C routine then the legends of the past. Single discipline strikers are useless by todays standards in a fight.

#justthefacts

 

[Gay For Longo]

Oh yeah he'd get smoked by the giants in boxing today, I'm talking about the bums in the UFC

My bad

 

[member 1013]

Bisping would embarrass Jack on the feet unfortunately.

FACT: Combat athletes who were in thier prime pre 1980s would get shit kicked by todays gatekeepers.

The average CrossFit dad has a better diet and S&C routine then the legends of the past. Single discipline strikers are useless by todays standards in a fight.

#justthefacts

Did you just say Derrick Lewis has better conditioning than old school boxers? Or anyone that has conditioning?

 

[1031]

The skill with which today's fighters use their weapons would be unlike anything Dempsey had faced.
But, had he access to today's coaches...

 

[Ted Williams' head]

Bisping would embarrass Jack on the feet unfortunately.

Jack Dempsey would KO Bisping or submit him... what ever he felt like at the time

 

[Ted Williams' head]

Looks a bit familiar dont it, and you fools were wondering where GSP got it

 

[La Paix]

Did you just say Derrick Lewis has better conditioning than old school boxers? Or anyone that has conditioning?

Yes. I put FACT first so you can't really debate it.

Jack Dempsey would KO Bisping or submit him... what ever he felt like at the time

Which one is Jack? Either way that's poor hand positioning and other guy isn't defending properly. Grimacing while doing a push up will never stop a sub.

 

[member 1013]

Yes. I put FACT first so you can't really debate it.


Which one is Jack? Either way that's poor hand positioning and other guy isn't defending properly. Grimacing while doing a push up will never stop a sub.

FACT I have been pwnt

 

[SensoriaUtopia]

WHo did Jack Dempsey fight in his day that was on the skill level of a Stipe or a Lennox or Anthony Joshua or Mark Hunt in terms of pure striking and being able to take a punch.

Not hating just asking. Dempsey would be a better technical boxer than hunt, but in a mma fight all Hunt needs to do is land one, could Dempsey take that kind of strike. Could he deal with the jab of Lennox. Or even the power of Rumble Johnson.

 

[ejlarson]

Fact. When you say something that isn't a fact, followed by the word fact, it makes you a freeking childish moron. That's the fact, Jack.

 

[member 1013]

Fact. When you say something that isn't a fact, followed by the word fact, it makes you a freeking childish moron. That's the fact, Jack.

FACT my penis is a totally normal size and women don’t laugh at it

 

[HEATH VON DOOM]

FACT my penis is a totally normal size and women don’t laugh at it

13 inches is only normal for Alpha males like us.

 

[The Sound of Violence]

Yeah...Jack somewhat ducked Ed Strangler Lewis back in the day so I'm not real confident in him having any success. Plus there's this quote, which sounds like some Floyd Mayweather levels of optimism

"Even the proposed participants joined the fun, each outlining his view of the probable outcome and the tactics he would employ. Dempsey, in a story in the Rochester (N.Y.) American of Dec. 10, 1922, noted that "if the match ever went through, I think I'd be mighty tempted to try to beat that wrestler at his own game. I've done a lot of wrestling as part of my preliminary training and I think I've got the old toehold and headlock down close to perfection. If I can win the first fall from him, I'll begin to use my fists. But I've got a funny little hunch that maybe I can dump him without rapping him on the chin." This declaration was not just publicity talk, according to persons who knew Dempsey. He really had done some wrestling in his younger days, and though he was not very successful at it, he firmly believed he could lick anyone on the mat."

And Ed sounding like just about every modern grappler when talking about a crossover fight

"...I could cover up long enough to get hold of him, and once I got hold, he would not have a chance, because he does not know how to break wrestling holds and I am stronger than he is. Of course there is one chance in a thousand that he might hit me with a punch hard enough to knock me out before I could get hold of him, but that is only one chance. I am sincere about the match and will put up $25,000 in real money to bet that I can beat him."

The Strangler vs. The Mauler

 

[Ted Williams' head]

Sounds like a bunch of B.S.

Dempsey had the balls to fight black fighters back then (something that can't be said for guys like Tunney). Dempsey was all man

 

[ECC170]

Half these fellas can't take a punch (overeem), and the other half can't seem to throw a few punches without having a heart attack (ngannou).

Jack hit like a mack truck and was used to fighting for 15 rounds

Curtis Blaydes would spear him through the cage...Rumble would decapitate him with a head kick or uppercut

 

[Silverball]

Luke Rockhold subs him within 3 minutes.

He said, "UFC HW division".