General Fork in the Road email to all Fed workers for deferred resignation

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kvr28

I am the Greengo
Nov 22, 2015
11,064
16,494
Holy shit, so if they don't want to get on board with the new direction they can resign as of Sept 30th 2025 with basically no duties till then. Basically 9 months to figure out where you are going. Wonder how many are going to take it, especially since a lot of their positions are on the chopping block.

Deferred Resignation Email to Federal Employees
January 28, 2025

During the first week of his administration, President Trump issued a number of directives concerning the federal workforce. Among those directives, the President required that employees return to in-person work, restored accountability for employees who have policy-making authority, restored accountability for senior career executives, and reformed the federal hiring process to focus on merit. As a result of the above orders, the reform of the federal workforce will be significant.

The reformed federal workforce will be built around four pillars:

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1)Return to Office: The substantial majority of federal employees who have been working remotely since Covid will be required to return to their physical offices five days a week. Going forward, we also expect our physical offices to undergo meaningful consolidation and divestitures, potentially resulting in physical office relocations for a number of federal workers.
2)Performance culture: The federal workforce should be comprised of the best America has to offer. We will insist on excellence at every level — our performance standards will be updated to reward and promote those that exceed expectations and address in a fair and open way those who do not meet the high standards which the taxpayers of this country have a right to demand.
3)More streamlined and flexible workforce: While a few agencies and even branches of the military are likely to see increases in the size of their workforce, the majority of federal agencies are likely to be downsized through restructurings, realignments, and reductions in force. These actions are likely to include the use of furloughs and the reclassification to at-will status for a substantial number of federal employees.
4)Enhanced standards of conduct: The federal workforce should be comprised of employees who are reliable, loyal, trustworthy, and who strive for excellence in their daily work. Employees will be subject to enhanced standards of suitability and conduct as we move forward. Employees who engage in unlawful behavior or other misconduct will be prioritized for appropriate investigation and discipline, including termination.

Each of the pillars outlined above will be pursued in accordance with applicable law, consistent with your agency's policies, and to the extent permitted under relevant collective-bargaining agreements.

If you choose to remain in your current position, we thank you for your renewed focus on serving the American people to the best of your abilities and look forward to working together as part of an improved federal workforce. At this time, we cannot give you full assurance regarding the certainty of your position or agency but should your position be eliminated you will be treated with dignity and will be afforded the protections in place for such positions.

If you choose not to continue in your current role in the federal workforce, we thank you for your service to your country and you will be provided with a dignified, fair departure from the federal government utilizing a deferred resignation program. This program begins effective January 28 and is available to all federal employees until February 6. If you resign under this program, you will retain all pay and benefits regardless of your daily workload and will be exempted from all applicable in-person work requirements until September 30, 2025 (or earlier if you choose to accelerate your resignation for any reason). The details of this separation plan can be found below.

Whichever path you choose, we thank you for your service to The United States of America.


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Upon review of the below deferred resignation letter, if you wish to resign:


1)Select “Reply” to this email. You must reply from your government account. A reply from an account other than your .gov or .mil account will not be accepted.
2)Type the word “Resign” into the body of this reply email. Hit “Send”.


THE LAST DAY TO ACCEPT THE DEFERRED RESIGNATION PROGRAM IS FEBRUARY 6, 2025.

Deferred resignation is available to all full-time federal employees except for military personnel of the armed forces, employees of the U.S. Postal Service, those in positions related to immigration enforcement and national security, and those in any other positions specifically excluded by your employing agency.



 

NiteProwleR

Free Hole Lay Row
Nov 17, 2023
4,432
6,982
They are useless anyway and if that's the only way to get them out then so be it. What actual work do we expect these mental defects get done?
 

Uncle Tom Doug

Official TMMAC Racist
Jun 24, 2022
1,604
2,638
I worked as a contractor for the Department of Energy, prior to working for my current company. It was during the obama administration. The shit I saw in my 3-4 years working for the federal government absolutely disgusted me. At least 70% of Federal employees are useless morons. They literally got paid to show up and promoted for just hanging around. Almost every project was an absolute disaster and over budget by amounts that would see entire divisions laid off if it happened in the private sector. The HEUMF(Highly Enriched Uranium Materials Facility) building was originally supposed to cost around $900 million dollars. Before I left, the construction cost of this building had increased to over $4.2 billion and they somehow managed to construct it incorrectly. The trucks hauling the materials were supposed to be able to enter the building to unload the highly enriched uranium in a contained environment, but somehow external loading docks were constructed instead.

It was also supposed to be the most secure building on the Y12 reservation, but an 80 year old nun and two other dudes in their late 50's and 60's were able to cut through multiple barriers and get to the exterior of the HEUMF building to spray paint it and splash pig's blood all over it.


The head of both OPSEC and InfoSEC at the time was a black female diversity hire that couldn't speak a full sentence of intelligible English. I have absolutely no respect for anyone that's a long-term employee of the government at any level.
 

Wiggy

We. Live. In. A. Fucking. Meme.
Oct 23, 2015
899
1,630
I worked as a contractor for the Department of Energy, prior to working for my current company. It was during the obama administration. The shit I saw in my 3-4 years working for the federal government absolutely disgusted me. At least 70% of Federal employees are useless morons. They literally got paid to show up and promoted for just hanging around. Almost every project was an absolute disaster and over budget by amounts that would see entire divisions laid off if it happened in the private sector. The HEUMF(Highly Enriched Uranium Materials Facility) building was originally supposed to cost around $900 million dollars. Before I left, the construction cost of this building had increased to over $4.2 billion and they somehow managed to construct it incorrectly. The trucks hauling the materials were supposed to be able to enter the building to unload the highly enriched uranium in a contained environment, but somehow external loading docks were constructed instead.

It was also supposed to be the most secure building on the Y12 reservation, but an 80 year old nun and two other dudes in their late 50's and 60's were able to cut through multiple barriers and get to the exterior of the HEUMF building to spray paint it and splash pig's blood all over it.


The head of both OPSEC and InfoSEC at the time was a black female diversity hire that couldn't speak a full sentence of intelligible English. I have absolutely no respect for anyone that's a long-term employee of the government at any level.
None of this is surprising.

I did contract work in Iraq during the second Gulf War. While it wasn't directly for the govt, it was govt funded. The shit I saw there (I worked in "finance" as an "accountant", but really, I was just an overglorified bookkeeper) was fucking astounding and would bottle your mind.

Perhaps the most ludicrous thing was for the first several years of the war, the company (and I'm assuming most, if not all contractors) were on "cost plus" contracts.

What that means is instead of what we would typically consider as a "bid" contract (i.e. - the govt has XYZ work that needs to be done, you submit a bid for $ABC, they pay you $ABC, and it's up to you to do it for less than $ABC in order to make a profit), it was a thing where the company I worked for would spend their own $$$ on something, "justify" it to the govt, then the govt would reimburse their $$$ plus a percentage. Hence the name "cost plus"...their cost plus the percentage.

The RADICAL amount of overspending they did was atrocious. We're talking departments that should have 2 people max had 7-8. Entire structures would get rebuilt for no reason. Billeting would replace every bed on the camp for no reason. I could go on & on.

And don't even get me started on the monumental morons they had out there working.

What was even crazier was after I'd been out there for a few months, they convinced the govt that the current form of cost plus wasn't working. They did all their transactions in cash, and the interest they were having to pay to float the cash flow was costing them too much.

They convinced the govt (as well as every company, vendor, & subcontractor they worked with) to go on a net30 (though often 60-90) pay-by-wire system.

So when the company I worked for needed to spend money, we'd get all the documents together verifying payment was due. Then those docs would be submitted to the govt. The govt would pay us - plus our percentage - FIRST. We then keep our percentage and forward the $$$ to the actual vendor, subcontractor, etc.

Except half the time, our company would hold onto the money for as much as six fucking months before paying anything. The number of pissed off vendors & subcontractors I had in my office, slamming their hand on the counter demanding to get paid was insane.

The amount of bloat, disconnect, unnecessary spending, & inefficiency with this sorta thing is fucking other-worldly...to the point that really, unless you've seen & experienced it first-hand, you wouldn't believe it.
 

Uncle Tom Doug

Official TMMAC Racist
Jun 24, 2022
1,604
2,638
None of this is surprising.

I did contract work in Iraq during the second Gulf War. While it wasn't directly for the govt, it was govt funded. The shit I saw there (I worked in "finance" as an "accountant", but really, I was just an overglorified bookkeeper) was fucking astounding and would bottle your mind.

Perhaps the most ludicrous thing was for the first several years of the war, the company (and I'm assuming most, if not all contractors) were on "cost plus" contracts.

What that means is instead of what we would typically consider as a "bid" contract (i.e. - the govt has XYZ work that needs to be done, you submit a bid for $ABC, they pay you $ABC, and it's up to you to do it for less than $ABC in order to make a profit), it was a thing where the company I worked for would spend their own $$$ on something, "justify" it to the govt, then the govt would reimburse their $$$ plus a percentage. Hence the name "cost plus"...their cost plus the percentage.

The RADICAL amount of overspending they did was atrocious. We're talking departments that should have 2 people max had 7-8. Entire structures would get rebuilt for no reason. Billeting would replace every bed on the camp for no reason. I could go on & on.

And don't even get me started on the monumental morons they had out there working.

What was even crazier was after I'd been out there for a few months, they convinced the govt that the current form of cost plus wasn't working. They did all their transactions in cash, and the interest they were having to pay to float the cash flow was costing them too much.

They convinced the govt (as well as every company, vendor, & subcontractor they worked with) to go on a net30 (though often 60-90) pay-by-wire system.

So when the company I worked for needed to spend money, we'd get all the documents together verifying payment was due. Then those docs would be submitted to the govt. The govt would pay us - plus our percentage - FIRST. We then keep our percentage and forward the $$$ to the actual vendor, subcontractor, etc.

Except half the time, our company would hold onto the money for as much as six fucking months before paying anything. The number of pissed off vendors & subcontractors I had in my office, slamming their hand on the counter demanding to get paid was insane.

The amount of bloat, disconnect, unnecessary spending, & inefficiency with this sorta thing is fucking other-worldly...to the point that really, unless you've seen & experienced it first-hand, you wouldn't believe it.
That sounds about right. Our managers emailed us every July and told us to come up with a wishlist because we had millions of dollars in the budget that had to be spent or we'd lost it the following fiscal year. We'd just come up with dumb shit that we didn't really need all because we had a giant blank check.

I also wasn't a direct contractor, I was a sub-sub contractor. George Dubya signed some bullshit legislation that granted minority owned businesses preferential treatment for minority owned businesses, so the direct contractor for the position I was in was a company that was owned by a latina that knew nothing about technology and was actually trying to become a pop/rap star. Someone much smarter than she was created the company for her and made her the CEO so they could win the bid. And it wasn't an isolated incident.

The waste, fraud, and abuse that happens in state and federal government agencies is mind numbing.
 

Jamie999

Well-Known Member
Aug 13, 2024
452
445
None of this is surprising.

I did contract work in Iraq during the second Gulf War. While it wasn't directly for the govt, it was govt funded. The shit I saw there (I worked in "finance" as an "accountant", but really, I was just an overglorified bookkeeper) was fucking astounding and would bottle your mind.

Perhaps the most ludicrous thing was for the first several years of the war, the company (and I'm assuming most, if not all contractors) were on "cost plus" contracts.

What that means is instead of what we would typically consider as a "bid" contract (i.e. - the govt has XYZ work that needs to be done, you submit a bid for $ABC, they pay you $ABC, and it's up to you to do it for less than $ABC in order to make a profit), it was a thing where the company I worked for would spend their own $$$ on something, "justify" it to the govt, then the govt would reimburse their $$$ plus a percentage. Hence the name "cost plus"...their cost plus the percentage.

The RADICAL amount of overspending they did was atrocious. We're talking departments that should have 2 people max had 7-8. Entire structures would get rebuilt for no reason. Billeting would replace every bed on the camp for no reason. I could go on & on.

And don't even get me started on the monumental morons they had out there working.

What was even crazier was after I'd been out there for a few months, they convinced the govt that the current form of cost plus wasn't working. They did all their transactions in cash, and the interest they were having to pay to float the cash flow was costing them too much.

They convinced the govt (as well as every company, vendor, & subcontractor they worked with) to go on a net30 (though often 60-90) pay-by-wire system.

So when the company I worked for needed to spend money, we'd get all the documents together verifying payment was due. Then those docs would be submitted to the govt. The govt would pay us - plus our percentage - FIRST. We then keep our percentage and forward the $$$ to the actual vendor, subcontractor, etc.

Except half the time, our company would hold onto the money for as much as six fucking months before paying anything. The number of pissed off vendors & subcontractors I had in my office, slamming their hand on the counter demanding to get paid was insane.

The amount of bloat, disconnect, unnecessary spending, & inefficiency with this sorta thing is fucking other-worldly...to the point that really, unless you've seen & experienced it first-hand, you wouldn't believe it.
Cost plus only works if you retain control over the work being done. Basically you still need to manage the contracted out work. You need to be the one determining what gets done, what gets spent.. You're only contracting out the actual work being done.

It does have it's place though... It's much cheaper on average because risk is with the contractee, so you're not paying contractor for any risk. I've seen cost plus contracts as low as 3%.. How low they go depends on how inclusive the costs are.. If they have a ton of overheads that don't get included then obviously the percentage needs to be much higher.

But ya no way I would enter a cost plus contract and not have control over every line of cost.