Francis Ngannou

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Will he be welcomed back at the UFC Performance Institute?

  • Yes

    Votes: 10 26.3%
  • No - they were never friends

    Votes: 28 73.7%

  • Total voters
    38

kaladin stormblessed

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they're certainly mad. they'll have offline chats. and they will probably diss him for a little more to save face. but he's way too marketable, and has too much potential for exciting fights, to disown him
 

Rambo John J

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well he lost his aggression and 12 lbs of muscle

what goes on at that training institute?
 

jason73

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francis is shot. his heart wasnt in it.they need to feed him some guys who are barely ranked and build him back up. if he fights timid like that again i say its a wrap for him
 

Rambo John J

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honestly reminded me of Jones vs OSP a bit...killer instinct gone...aggression gone...body changes

I truly feel he fell out of Favor with UFC and they stopped giving him special treatment and priviledges

Or he bet Lewis by decision at +1050 and is gonna by Compound in Cameroon

or mental issues of some sort



What about Derrick Lewis jumping switch kick though LOL...amazing and may have cracked Francis's arm
 

Howard Moon

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Sep 6, 2015
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francis is shot. his heart wasnt in it.they need to feed him some guys who are barely ranked and build him back up. if he fights timid like that again i say its a wrap for him
Have you ever seen a fighter completely mentally destroyed like Nganou appears to be after the Stipe fight? I'm pretty sure I haven't.
Before anyone says GSP, he got cautious after Serra, but he still engaged.

Also, why the fuck wasn't Herb Dean calling for action? We've seen a lot more ref intervention in far less boring fights. That awful, awful fight was a failure on his part too, imo.
 

Wild

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He had landed THREE punches thru two rounds. That’s literally unheard of, especially for a guy that flattened HW’s like Overeem.
 

Dick Niaz

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Can someone translate what Dana meant by talking about Francis’ ego getting in the way? What does that have to do with not throwing punches?
 

SensoriaUtopia

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I still cannot wrap my brain around this. I gave him a mulligan for round 1, but once we where a minute plus into round 2 I knew he would do this the entire fight, I did not expect him to go for the jugular in round 3 and he did not. I just don't understand how he can be this mentally fragile. It's not like he lost to a chump, he lost to Stipe, Ngannou brought up himself up from being homeless on the street in France to this level, really sad to see him just doubt himself like he did yesterday.

No disrespect to Derrick Lewis, but Ngannou at his best should beat that guy and beat him by a finish, he's just way too skilled and talented compared to Derrick Lewis. This was sad to see. I hope he gets back to his true form, never seen anything like this.
 

SensoriaUtopia

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Have you ever seen a fighter completely mentally destroyed like Nganou appears to be after the Stipe fight? I'm pretty sure I haven't.
Before anyone says GSP, he got cautious after Serra, but he still engaged.

Also, why the fuck wasn't Herb Dean calling for action? We've seen a lot more ref intervention in far less boring fights. That awful, awful fight was a failure on his part too, imo.

Herb Dean has really gone from one of the best refs to really becoming a pretty fucking bad ref the last few years. He can't figure out when to stop fights. He has fights that he stops way too early too often, but then other fights where he let's it go too long. Also in this fight, you can't just passively tell them 1 or 2 times about not being active, fuck tell them wtih more authority and if they don't listen, take away points from them.
 

Papi Chingon

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honestly reminded me of Jones vs OSP a bit...killer instinct gone...aggression gone...body changes

I truly feel he fell out of Favor with UFC and they stopped giving him special treatment and priviledges

Or he bet Lewis by decision at +1050 and is gonna by Compound in Cameroon

or mental issues of some sort



What about Derrick Lewis jumping switch kick though LOL...amazing and may have cracked Francis's arm
He threw a few of those against hunt too. Hilarious watching such a big guy do ttat.
 

tang

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Oct 21, 2015
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Idk what happened, did Stipe took his soul?

I thought it would be the best fight of the night and it was the worst, but other fights were so good I didnt mind, well... kinda sorta
 

Tiiimmmaaayyy

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Herb Dean has really gone from one of the best refs to really becoming a pretty fucking bad ref the last few years. He can't figure out when to stop fights. He has fights that he stops way too early too often, but then other fights where he let's it go too long. Also in this fight, you can't just passively tell them 1 or 2 times about not being active, fuck tell them wtih more authority and if they don't listen, take away points from them.
Herb has always sucked, imo
 

Tiiimmmaaayyy

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Rogan needs to bring Francis into the studio for the “i think you’d be surprised” talk.
 
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Have you ever seen a fighter completely mentally destroyed like Nganou appears to be after the Stipe fight? I'm pretty sure I haven't.
Before anyone says GSP, he got cautious after Serra, but he still engaged.

Also, why the fuck wasn't Herb Dean calling for action? We've seen a lot more ref intervention in far less boring fights. That awful, awful fight was a failure on his part too, imo.
Herb did Yellow Card them
 
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The Big Guy

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He had landed THREE punches thru two rounds. That’s literally unheard of, especially for a guy that flattened HW’s like Overeem.
Maybe he bet that fight to go the distance at like +500 knowing it would pay better than that petty 50k performance bonus
 

Aj Garcia

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It was so weird. He was bouncing around and moving like he was ready to throw down any second but just never did. Truly bizarre.

Does anyone remember the total strikes thrown stat?
 

Papi Chingon

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It was so weird. He was bouncing around and moving like he was ready to throw down any second but just never did. Truly bizarre.

Does anyone remember the total strikes thrown stat?
I think it was 31 combined with Francis only having 11. That statement isn't total thrown though, it's landed.
 

Papi Chingon

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Danus really threw ngannou under the bus. He said his ego got out of control. This happens with every fighter they try to over-hype, so I don't know what that has to do with anything. Apparently it's fine for rhonda and conor.
 
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Seemed like both guys were a bit intimidated by facing an opponent of equal size and power.

IMO
 

Ted Williams' head

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Sep 23, 2015
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Ngannou is the typical bully. He alpha'd Overeem in the lead up to the fight, had him shook. Stipe and Lewis didn't buy into that shit, and he just looked awkward and unsure of himself. He told Overeem he was going to put him to sleep and Overeem looked scared. He did it to Lewis and he got shit talked back and shoved. He fought scared because Lewis stood up to him IMO
 

Rambo John J

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It was so weird. He was bouncing around and moving like he was ready to throw down any second but just never did. Truly bizarre.

Does anyone remember the total strikes thrown stat?
I know right...he had great footwork and was bobbing and weaving like roy jones...just forgot to actually punch...threw like 3-4 good kicks all fight and only a few punches...wtf