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Dave Insurgent

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Mataro Blue

Any advice?

I got some in pots and some in the garden. The ones in the garden look better as usual, both look healthy.

All I feed with is Alaska fish compost ( usually use a local brand but not available this year) and crushed egg shells. Never really learned the chemistry of the soil.

Pinch off colas after the third’ish bud... clean out bottom leaves... stress train... what else should I be doing?
 

Papi Chingon

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Mataro Blue

Any advice?

I got some in pots and some in the garden. The ones in the garden look better as usual, both look healthy.

All I feed with is Alaska fish compost ( usually use a local brand but not available this year) and crushed egg shells. Never really learned the chemistry of the soil.

Pinch off colas after the third’ish bud... clean out bottom leaves... stress train... what else should I be doing?
I don't do organic, so I'm the wrong guy to ask. I have no idea what you have in your soil, and even if I did, it would require experience growing with that specific ratio of amendments. Some use super soil, others just do amendments and additives as needed or as timed. Sorry can't help there. I am questioning whether the fish compost is correct for flowering, and they are starting flowering based on the pics.

Pinching off the colas is good, however, cutting them is better. You want to leave some stem after topping, otherwise the new tops (2 now) don't have proper strength on the top for tearing. If stem is left over (just a small amount), the branching is left with both top and bottom anchoring. Without the top anchoring, they do tend to break off easily under weight (or under training).

You want to clean out leaves both at the bottom, and in the center. This will be ongoing. You will also want to cut off lower, smaller branches, so the plants can put their energy into the uppers. Popcorn buds are a waste of time, plus this will allow for more air flow, and easier maintenance of pests.

What type of stress training are you doing? At this point I'd really just be supercropping since it doesn't appear you lst'd. I don't like high stress training, personally.
 

Papi Chingon

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I don't do organic, so I'm the wrong guy to ask. I have no idea what you have in your soil, and even if I did, it would require experience growing with that specific ratio of amendments. Some use super soil, others just do amendments and additives as needed or as timed. Sorry can't help there. I am questioning whether the fish compost is correct for flowering, and they are starting flowering based on the pics.

Pinching off the colas is good, however, cutting them is better. You want to leave some stem after topping, otherwise the new tops (2 now) don't have proper strength on the top for tearing. If stem is left over (just a small amount), the branching is left with both top and bottom anchoring. Without the top anchoring, they do tend to break off easily under weight (or under training).

You want to clean out leaves both at the bottom, and in the center. This will be ongoing. You will also want to cut off lower, smaller branches, so the plants can put their energy into the uppers. Popcorn buds are a waste of time, plus this will allow for more air flow, and easier maintenance of pests.

What type of stress training are you doing? At this point I'd really just be supercropping since it doesn't appear you lst'd. I don't like high stress training, personally.
Add blackstrap molasses into your regiment as well as worm casting tea. Nothing better than live soil, and the roots will love you. If you want me to walk you through an easy recipe, I'm happy to do so.
 

Dave Insurgent

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I don't do organic, so I'm the wrong guy to ask. I have no idea what you have in your soil, and even if I did, it would require experience growing with that specific ratio of amendments. Some use super soil, others just do amendments and additives as needed or as timed. Sorry can't help there. I am questioning whether the fish compost is correct for flowering, and they are starting flowering based on the pics.

Pinching off the colas is good, however, cutting them is better. You want to leave some stem after topping, otherwise the new tops (2 now) don't have proper strength on the top for tearing. If stem is left over (just a small amount), the branching is left with both top and bottom anchoring. Without the top anchoring, they do tend to break off easily under weight (or under training).

You want to clean out leaves both at the bottom, and in the center. This will be ongoing. You will also want to cut off lower, smaller branches, so the plants can put their energy into the uppers. Popcorn buds are a waste of time, plus this will allow for more air flow, and easier maintenance of pests.

What type of stress training are you doing? At this point I'd really just be supercropping since it doesn't appear you lst'd. I don't like high stress training, personally.
It’s a Sea Soil Compost blend for the soil.

Poor choice of words, not pinching. Cutting the middle bud after three junctions.

Good to know about the centre leaves. Makes sense, thanks.

Just bending the branches outwards to get sun in from all angles.
 

Papi Chingon

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It’s a Sea Soil Compost blend for the soil.

Poor choice of words, not pinching. Cutting the middle bud after three junctions.

Good to know about the centre leaves. Makes sense, thanks.

Just bending the branches outwards to get sun in from all angles.
You're good by just bending the branches. That's low stress. Supercropping may be considered high stress, but i'd debate that any day of the week, unless someone is supercropping multiple branches in the same day.

It's not just center leaves, you want to get rid of the pathetic lower branches. Now in flowering, wait a week, and remove the thin lowers. In week 3 do the same. From then on, shave off (I use a razor blade) the pathetic shoots that are growing off of branches that will never get sufficient sunlight. Those will just be wasted space, popcorn buds, and constrict the proper air flow you need.
 

Papi Chingon

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I would appreciate that.
The proper way to do it is with a pump or an airstone (fish tank pump), but you can do it without that if you constantly agitate the tea while it is brewing. You have a decent amount of plants there, and you want a soil drench. To get to the tap root, of your in ground plants, you will want to mix up a decent amount. I don't know how much you are watering (assuming you are hand watering?). Get two 5 gallon *clean* (not buckets you've used for various things) buckets. In one, fill it with water, then add about 3 cups of worm castings, then about 3 tablespoons of blackstrap molasses (don't use regular molasses). I like to put my blackstrap molasses into a cup of water first, then mix it up so it doesn't just drop to the bottom of the bucket. Pour that in and then with mix, or pour into the empty bucket. You want to make sure everything mixes well and gets aerated. Every 5-8 hours agitate it again for aerate. The microbes require air to live, and they feed off of the blackstap molasses. You will "brew" your tea for 24-48 hours, but these microbes will only live in the tea for 72 hours, so it's not something you can make ahead of time and just sit on. I like to go 48 hours, then do a soil drench. Prior to doing the soil drench you stain your worm castings (solid matter at this point). It is easily accomplished by just pouring the brew slowly into the empty bucket, dumping solids, then doing the same into the newly empty bucket (you'll get it out of there with 3 pours). Dilute 2/1 with water or even 3/1 with water and you're golden.
My schedule for feeding is feed, feed, flush, and I use the worm casting tea for my flush. You are not mixing up nutrients, so you can just add the worm casting tea whenever. Every third watering is probably a good guide, but you can't really overdo it. Not necessary for every watering, and at some point, more does not mean better.
 

MondoIDIOT

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My God .


THIS is what passes as gardening ?

LOL


The amount of mistakes I counted exceeds 20.



You don't 'garden'


You planted a few things LOL (with flaws)



Don't call yourself a Gardner makes us look bad
 

Dave Insurgent

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You want to clean out leaves both at the bottom, and in the center. This will be ongoing. You will also want to cut off lower, smaller branches, so the plants can put their energy into the uppers. Popcorn buds are a waste of time, plus this will allow for more air flow, and easier maintenance of pests.
Clean them up this morning. Cleared about the first 6-8 inches at the bottom and cleaned out the center of leaves and stragglers. They look good, much more space for air flow.

Cheers.