Who knows for sure. The level of talent those guys faced back then - Ali, Frazier, Norton, Foreman, Holmes - was WAY better than the large collection of cans that Tyson fought. And they all actually fought each other.I still think prime Tyson takes Foreman.
Ron lyle was a MONSTER foreman beat tooWho knows for sure. The level of talent those guys faced back then - Ali, Frazier, Norton, Foreman, Holmes - was WAY better than the large collection of cans that Tyson fought. And they all actually fought each other.
Tyson was a great boxer with insane power and a scary quickness. But against any of those guys in their prime? Who knows.
That's a scary fight right there.I still think prime Tyson takes Foreman.
Tyson beats Frazier, Tyson's basically a bigger, stronger, two fisted version of Frazier, beats Norton.Who knows for sure. The level of talent those guys faced back then - Ali, Frazier, Norton, Foreman, Holmes - was WAY better than the large collection of cans that Tyson fought. And they all actually fought each other.
Tyson was a great boxer with insane power and a scary quickness. But against any of those guys in their prime? Who knows.
Cmon. Don't act like Tyson was just a can crusher. D'amato era Tyson had excellent footwork, great head movement, cut angles, which opened up the shots he threw.Who knows for sure. The level of talent those guys faced back then - Ali, Frazier, Norton, Foreman, Holmes - was WAY better than the large collection of cans that Tyson fought. And they all actually fought each other.
Tyson was a great boxer with insane power and a scary quickness. But against any of those guys in their prime? Who knows.
Agree on the first part, but the worst matchup for Frazier.. that was ForemanTyson would fuck Frazier's world up. That's probably the worst matchup for Frazier you could come up with.
Tyson was a can crusher.Cmon. Don't act like Tyson was just a can crusher. D'amato era Tyson had excellent footwork, great head movement, cut angles, which opened up the shots he threw.
Not too mention the vast majority of boxers of highly renowned boxers have heavily padded records. Hell, Floyd was like 48-0 and put an ass whipping on some scrub who never boxed before.Cmon. Don't act like Tyson was just a can crusher. D'amato era Tyson had excellent footwork, great head movement, cut angles, which opened up the shots he threw.
To be fair, Spinks dethroned Larry Holmes and KO'd Gerry Cooney, so he was established at HW. I think Tyson only had 5 or 6 pounds on them when they fought.Spinks was basically a light heavyweight.
Holmes was 40 years old.
Mitch 'Blood' Green was a tough motherfucker. He talked mad shit leading up to that fight, he wanted angry Tyson, got angry Tyson, and lived to talk about it.Tyson was a can crusher.
He certainly had the talent to compete against the guys being mentioned in this thread, but that wasn't reality for boxing at the time. He simply didn't have that level of competition. It's not a criticism, it's reality.
Who was his best win?
Spinks was basically a light heavyweight.
Holmes was 40 years old.
James Tillis (31-8 at time of fight; 44-22-1 career record), Mitch Green (16-1; 19-6-1), James Smith (19-5; 44-17-1), and Tony Tucker (34-0; 57-7) all took Tyson the distance in his hey day.
I guess Tucker was his best win, but you get my point. I think.
There is no doubt that Tyson was awesome. One of the best ever for sure.
Neither guy was at their best in the rematch, read what Foreman's trainers had to say about him post-Ali.I saw Tyson puts away Fraizer quicker and easier than Foreman. He's not lasting 5 rounds with Tyson like he did in the rematch
Yeah but you can't compare Foreman post Ali to Frazier at that point. He was a broken man at the end of his rope.Neither guy was at their best in the rematch, read what Foreman's trainers had to say about him post-Ali.
They were both broken, Frazier more physically & Foreman mentally.Yeah but you can't compare Foreman post Ali to Frazier at that point. He was a broken man at the end of his rope.
Frazier is not beating either guy but I think Tyson is an even worse match up due to his speed.
I say Frazier doesn't last a round! And that pains me to say... I really love Joe Frazier!Well 6 knockdowns in 2 rounds on one of the best HW's of all time is tough to top, Tyson would have his work cut out for him