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Banchan

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Why are these birds protected in North America?
They're dangerous and attack people and their animals.
This is like protecting jellyfish or fire ants.
Why are giant birds that attack bears, wolves and throw goats off cliffs need our protection?
I could see banning hunting on particular species in low numbers but why are even the plentiful species like cooper hawk protected?
How would you feel if one of these came down on your dog or cat or even another person? I don't see why these birds are federally protected.


 

Banchan

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Imo if these birds attack you or your property you should be able to shoot it like any other animal causing you harm. Is it so that it's a 10 thousand dollar fine and or jail?? Is this China? What kind of silly person made this law and people are just ok with it?
 

sparkuri

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Thrre's no law saying you can't defend yourself against any being.
Of course you can nlast it if it's coming for you.
 

Hauler

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You can't kill them for sport.
You can kill them if they are attacking you - which is a very, very rare occurence. I've seen thousands of hawks, falcons, owls and eagles in the wild. Not once have I ever been attacked.

Birds of prey are a very important member of the ecosystem. They keep mice, rabbit and other creatures from becoming overpopulated. Killing them off would have some very bad unintended consequences.

Nature has a way of balancing itself out. Just let them soar, yo.
 

Banchan

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You can't kill them for sport.
You can kill them if they are attacking you - which is a very, very rare occurence. I've seen thousands of hawks, falcons, owls and eagles in the wild. Not once have I ever been attacked.

Birds of prey are a very important member of the ecosystem. They keep mice, rabbit and other creatures from becoming overpopulated. Killing them off would have some very bad unintended consequences.

Nature has a way of balancing itself out. Just let them soar, yo.
If they are attacking your pets or livestock and you try to get them to fly off and they wont leave can you shoot them in your State?
 

Banchan

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Thrre's no law saying you can't defend yourself against any being.
Of course you can nlast it if it's coming for you.
So could you hypothetically shoot this if it happened in your yard?



Hawk and eagle attacks are rare because they were very low numbers before. Now that they are bouncing back but territory is shrinking you're going to have alot more attacks. Humans may not be first choice in target but if you have animals they will highly come after them and then the human gets involved. However I read on livestock pages that you're not allowed to kill them in North America even though they are preying on your animals. :eek:
 

Hauler

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If they are attacking your pets or livestock and you try to get them to fly off and they wont leave can you shoot them in your State?
Sure. In my state nobody would know anyway. A rifle report around where I live is as common as hearing a liberal bitch about nonsense in California.

By law, I believe you need to get a permit if it's harming your livestock. But ain't nobody got time for that shit.

The only thing off limits are bald eagles, which are starting to pop up around here in Ohio. You shoot one of those, someone might shoot you on the dead bird's behalf.
 

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Sure. In my state nobody would know anyway. A rifle report around where I live is as common as hearing a liberal bitch about nonsense in California.

By law, I believe you need to get a permit if it's harming your livestock. But ain't nobody got time for that shit.

The only thing off limits are bald eagles, which are starting to pop up around here in Ohio. You shoot one of those, someone might shoot you on the dead bird's behalf.
Why? Are they magic?
 

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I saw one of them Californian condors at the zoo .fucker looked like it could fight king kong
 

Banchan

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Sure. In my state nobody would know anyway. A rifle report around where I live is as common as hearing a liberal bitch about nonsense in California.

By law, I believe you need to get a permit if it's harming your livestock. But ain't nobody got time for that shit.

The only thing off limits are bald eagles, which are starting to pop up around here in Ohio. You shoot one of those, someone might shoot you on the dead bird's behalf.
If the eagle is attacking your livestock and not flying off with you there, you're not going to shoot it? These birds are clever and will come back when they think you aren't looking. Same with the fox unless you put a severe scare in them such as a superficial shot. I wouldn't want to kill them either but the problem with them is they will come back thinking they can outsmart you.
 

Hauler

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If the eagle is attacking your livestock and not flying off with you there, you're not going to shoot it? These birds are clever and will come back when they think you aren't looking. Same with the fox unless you put a severe scare in them such as a superficial shot. I wouldn't want to kill them either but the problem with them is they will come back thinking they can outsmart you.
I don't have livestock.
Not my problem.
 

Banchan

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Why? Are they magic?
Wait till they become common like pigeons and people will get so fed up with them eating their chihuahuas. It's nostalgic when you have enjoyed 50 years without them terrorizing human settlements.
 

Hauler

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Wait till they become common like pigeons and people will get so fed up with them eating their chihuahuas. It's nostalgic when you have enjoyed 50 years without them terrorizing human settlements.
If they can start wiping out the chihuahua population that would be fucking sweet. Fucking rat dogs.
 

Grateful Dude

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Almost all birds are protected under the Migratory Bird Treaty Act, and most states (I think) have additional protection for birds of prey under state laws.

If you have a problem with eagles or hawks, you can file a Depredation Permit from US Fish and Wildlife. But good luck with that lol. It will take time and cost $$
 

Banchan

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Why is this continent protecting this vermin bird which is basically a snake with wings?


What kind of hippy Jubo convinced you all that having this creature make a come back is good for the environment?