Discussion in 'The Off-topic Lounge' started by Splinty, Oct 12, 2019.
this isn't a tragic mistake, it's 1st Degree Murder.
There's not a first degree murder in Texas.
There's murder, capital murder, manslaughter.
There are extenuating circumstances defenses.
I wonder what really happened??
this would be premeditated with aggravating circumstances (IMAO)
He meant to kill someone who it was contrary to his training and department policy to kill.
Former Fort Worth Police Officer Aaron Dean Charged With Murder
The Fort Worth Police officer who shot and killed a woman in her home early Saturday morning has been booked into the Tarrant County Jail and charged with murder. Bond has not been set.
Aaron Dean, who resigned from the Fort Worth Police Department earlier Monday, shot and killed Atatiana Jefferson in her home while responding to a welfare check this weekend has resigned from the department before he could be fired.
At a news conference Monday afternoon, Interim Police Chief Ed Kraus identified the officer as Aaron Dean. Kraus said Dean was going to be fired Monday morning, but the officer turned in his resignation before he could do so.
Jefferson’s neighbor, James Smith, had called the department’s non-emergency number after noticing that the front door of her home had been left open since about 10 p.m. Friday.
Police said in a statement Saturday that the officer who shot her had perceived a threat and drew his weapon while checking her home. He fired once, striking her. He had been with the department since April 2018.
Ft Worth is home to the Timothy Curry Justice Center
I mean, what was their initial intent? Sneak around for what? It's a welfare check. Send someone to the back and just go to the open door and announce yourself. You come sneaking around my yard with flashlights, you're damn right you're going to see me through the window with a gun.
Fort Worth Police Shooting: Officer Is Charged With Murder for Killing Woman in Her Home
Fort Worth officer jailed on murder charge after fatally shooting Atatiana Jefferson
Day late and a dollar short
True, but unfortunate. Unfortunate because there aren't extenuating degrees of being dead. There's only 'she dead'.
Fucker should be found guilty & hung in Texas' equivalent of Times Square..
Isn't capital murder first degree murder? Planed and premeditated? Also think if they charge him with murder 1 in won't stick.
So why release the video with a still shot of the gun? The fact that she had a gun in the house is completely irrelevant and does nothing but give credence to the claims that cops will do anything to protect their own.
This is a lie.
His gun was already out before there was any "perceived threat"
Murder and capital murder in Texas are essentially the same for premeditation.
In Texas they will have to charge him with murder. He intended to shoot and he intended to kill with that shot. He'll have a hard time arguing otherwise.
With that he meets the definition of murder. Then he will have to argue the various defenses to homicide.
He might try to do what Amber Guyger did an admit wrong doing but state he was in fear for his life. As bad as this looks that's probably what he will do. He'll be found guilty and then he'll get a lighter sentence because he targeted the wrong person accidently.
Or go full hog and claim he saw the gun, was in fear for his life...did nothing wrong, just following procedures, etc. If he does this, some jurisdictions have let cops off (the whole debate) but he might be overestimating the changing tide on the subject. Hell get skewered as the department That's already made public statements that the video shows wrong doing. They aren't coming for to his rescue.
Yep, looked like he was playing a video game and shot the first thing he saw.
Overreacted to a situation he created with his own incompetence.
where have I seen that before....????
I bet they would.
This POS ....
Former Fort Worth officer who shot Atatiana Jefferson refuses to speak with detectives about her death
reminds me of that guy that killed the woman in the Midwest that was an Australian
She walks over to the car and he shoots her out the window.
Refused to speak. Maybe a good lawyer tactic up front but it makes me want them to hang during a sentencing
In this case people are reading a little too much into it. The department is throwing this guy under the bus, why in the fuck would he go out of his way to help them build their case?
What can we possibly be reading into it?
I just said it's probably a good lawyer tactic.
It changes nothing about my opinion, no matter where the department is coming from.
The guys 100% wrong and there's a family mourning.
Hope he does his very best to get off and gets wrecked in sentencing.
In the post you quoted, @KWingJitsu called him a piece of shit. In your case, you're rooting for him to get "wrecked" in sentencing. Seems harsh for something that most people would also be doing given his position. It's actually kind of ironic that you seem to be taking such a hard stance against police officers actions lately given your occupation.
Let's try this again.
If you murder somebody and cooperate, are open and apologetic to quickly get to the bottom of the crime, and smoothly give the family closure. That open accessibility and cooperation is typically taken into account during sentencing.
If you maximally inhibit the investigation into you, so be it. that same amount of cooperation should be taken into account for sentencing. And it will be stronger sentencing than was seen in the Amber Guyger case for instance.
I'm not a cop and The first thing I'm trained to do when I screw up no matter the outcome is apologize.
Also, I don't understand why you make so many comments by implication instead of just stating what you mean. It intentionally leaves others to fill in the holes and you regularly tell them they're wrong, but you're ambiguous.
Edit - speech and grammar fixed
There's a reason you're read your rights when you're arrested, and that reason isn't because you're supposed to make the prosecutions job easier. You're not saying "They'll go easier on him if he cooperates." you're saying "I hope they go harder on him if he doesn't co-operate." Those are 2 very different things.
If memory serves medical malpractice is the third leading cause of death in America. When a doctor fucks up and costs someone their life, are you out for justice then too? or is that instance of someone entrusting their life to a professional somehow different?