Highway fucking robbery

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  1. Frank Armitage

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    Ya I didn't like his corner advice...I stated that in the Live thread

    Thanks for the slo mo reviews
     
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  2. Fag Trigg

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    in short: last night i said it was a robbery
    then today slo mo had me thinkin it coulda gone either way due to r2
    yet after watchin r 4 slo mo, its back to being a robbery again

    keep in mind i was rooting for jones

    couple noteworthy observations:
    jj landed a kick in r1 to reyes knee that looked like it hyperextended it
    jj landed a spinning kick to the balls late in the fight
    damn reyes takedown defense was insane, but he did land an illegal elbow to the back of jjs head to break 1 clinch
     
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  3. blas4ublasphemy

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    I watched the fight without commentary and felt Reyes landed the majority of the clean solid shots throughout the fight. First 3 rounds in my eyes are 10-9 Reyes, fourth I'd personally score a draw and last round was Jones due to his opponent's inactivity more than anything. Even going by Pride scoring I'd still give Reyes the nod despite his momentum fading in the championship rounds.
     
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  4. Wild

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    I’d say it wasn’t so much that Reyes won the fight but that Jones didn’t put much effort into it. The decision doesn’t bother me nor would it have if it went the other way.
     
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    I wasn't being coy. That's honestly how I saw it. Others also view Rd 2 as a swing Rd.
     
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    I just rewatched the entire fight in slow motion. It took 3hrs.
     
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  8. Dick Niaz

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    I didn’t agree with the decision, but it was close. So close in fact that there is no way this would qualify as a robbery.

    Murphy over Lee was much more of a robbery, as the aggregated media scores show:

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    Former UFC match maker Joe Silva scored it a draw.
     
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  10. Dick Niaz

    Dick Niaz Think of the shadow!

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    A “Draw” or a “D-Raw”?? Stop contradicting yourself!
     
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  11. Fag Trigg

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    u r correct sir
     
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  12. SickEye

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    If Reyes could have just kept his foot on the gas the WHOLE fight...

    ...they still would have gave the decision to Jones! He will have to be finished to lose his belt.
     
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    yeah - no way Reyes lets this get to a decision again.
    , if he's smart, JBJ runs up to HW to get away from Dom
     
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  14. Frank Armitage

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    I don't doubt it one bit.

    I knew any decision would go to JJ...not that it is a good look for him to always have a lopsided card in close fights that he arguable lost.

    If you had what should be a 10-8 round on him, it is likely scored 10-9 Jones on the revised scorecard
     
  15. CreativeClassMauler

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    'Champion typically has to be beaten pretty soundly to lose a decision'.

    This is the problem we are having here people. People who follow MMA this closely are still spewing ridiculous nonsense like this.

    That's not how scoring works and never has. That's just something that a drunk grandpa who was watching Jim Braddock box during the depression used to say.

    Most people who are outraged just simply don't know how to score fights and their opinions can't be taken seriously.
     
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    Did his cornerman really tell him that? Extremely idiotic and it happens far too regularly.

    If there was a guide book to cornering, on page one it would say 'don't fucking tell your fighter he has won close rounds because a) you are a biased dipshit who can't be trusted to objetively score and b) even if you are scoring correctly, never assume that potentially corrupt and inept judges will be.

    Absolutely moronic behavior.
     
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    That and it's literally been true since...I don't know...fucking forever.

    Champs always get the benefit of the doubt.

    Interesting take though. I remember watching my first fight. Hope you enjoyed yours.
     
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    Round 1 - clearly Reyes

    Round 2 - clearly Jones

    Round 3 - toss up

    Round 4 - clearly Jones

    Round 5 - clearly Jones
     
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  19. CreativeClassMauler

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    Yes, the champ always gets the decision, just like BJ Penn getting jobbed out of his title in the first Frankie fight.

    If you are saying that there might be a general bias towards the champion, then sure, but that is just one of many biases a judge may or may not have, and we never know when it's at play.

    And that's also not what you posted, mate. You claimed that you personally didn't have a problem with a scoreline based on a criteria that doesn't actually exist. Which is objectively a stupid thing to say.
     
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    You know you don’t always have to be as abrasive as steel wool when you post, don’t you? We can always choose to be kind or rude. Kind feels better.
     
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    I'm accepting things for the way they are.

    Generally speaking, if a challenger is going to take down a champion via a judges decision it has to be with a dominant performance.

    All things being equal, I think Reyes won. But I sort of knew Jones was going to get the nod because he was the existing champ. I'm not saying that's right - just stating that's the way it typically is.

    If Reyes fights the last 3 rounds like he did in the first 2, he's your new champ. But due to stamina or idiotic advice from his corner - he took his foot off the gas.

    He fought well though. I don't want to take that away from him.
     
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  23. Dick Niaz

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    Sounds like Iowa all over again
     
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  24. Frank Armitage

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    It "crashed"
     
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    There are other ways he can lose his belt ;)
     
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