How did you score Dustin-Max 2?

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Who won the Dustin Poirier vs Max Holloway rematch at UFC 236?

  1. Poirier 49-46

  2. Poirier 48-47

  3. Holloway 48-47

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  1. conor mcgregor nut hugger

    conor mcgregor nut hugger Real Heroes Ride Dragons

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    I had it 48-47 for Max but I understand why someone would think that Dustin won round 4.

    Round 1 - Dustin
    Round 2 - Dustin
    Round 3 - Max
    Round 4 - Max (close though)
    Round 5 - Max

    You are welcome to disagree with me, but you're wrong.
     
  2. conor mcgregor nut hugger

    conor mcgregor nut hugger Real Heroes Ride Dragons

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    Unfortunately I think Khabib dominates Dustin.

    The only one capable of beating Khabib is Conor with two healthy feet.
     
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  3. Willthiswork

    Willthiswork I'd rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies.

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    Even the second round could have went to Max. After the first, Dustin's output slowed and Max's increased a ton. Dustin was able to land some big shots though that obviously won him rounds in the eyes of the judges. The knee that split Max open in the 4th would be a good example.
     
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  4. MMAHAWK

    MMAHAWK @MMAHAWK21 TMMAC Journalist of the Year 16' 17'

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    Round 1 10-8 Poirier
    Round 2 10-9 Poirier
    Round 3 10-9 Holloway
    Round 4 10-9 Poirier
    Round 5 10-9 Poirer

    49-45 Poirier
     
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  5. psychicdeath

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    10-8 Poirier
    10-9 Poirier
    10-9 Holloway
    10-9 Holloway
    10-9 Holloway

    47-47 draw
     
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  6. conor mcgregor nut hugger

    conor mcgregor nut hugger Real Heroes Ride Dragons

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    Kebab scored it a draw as well
     
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  7. conor mcgregor nut hugger

    conor mcgregor nut hugger Real Heroes Ride Dragons

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    How did Poirier win round 5?
     
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    MMAHAWK @MMAHAWK21 TMMAC Journalist of the Year 16' 17'

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    It was close but I thought he landed a few heavier shots and Controlled the majority of the round . Didn’t all 3 judges give him 5 too? Or did they all give Poirier a 10-8 first?
     
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  9. conor mcgregor nut hugger

    conor mcgregor nut hugger Real Heroes Ride Dragons

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    Haven't seen the scorecard for that fight yet.

    UFC 236: Official scorecard photos from Atlanta

    But I didn't like the stalling he did at the end of the round. I'd have to go back and watch the first 4 minutes but I don't remember him landing any big shots in that round.
     
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    conor mcgregor nut hugger Real Heroes Ride Dragons

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    All 3 judges scored it 4-1

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    @lordofthepies@lordofthepies you can apologize now for calling me a retard for not giving Dustin a 10-8 round 1
     
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  11. Joemacka

    Joemacka Bisping is GOAT

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    I had it 48-47 Poirier. I seriously dont see how Poirier won the 5th, Max was active all round landing shots whilst Poirier had like 1minute of stalling at the end.

    The 4th round was close but Poirier did the most damage.
     
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  12. BrunoMcGyver

    BrunoMcGyver “My balls was hot.”

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    48-46 Poirier. 10-8 round 1 imo

    Rounds 1,2,4 poirier.
    Rounds 3 & 5 Max
     
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  13. Muridae83

    Muridae83 Well-Known Member

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    The thing here is... what criteria do you use to score that round? Here we have a volume striker vs a hard hitting striker... for me Poirier was the one landing the more cleaner shots especially since Holloway just stopped trying to block some shots like that true savage he is and Holloway landed more shots. If u also take in consideration that Holloways face looked like it had taken alot more damage.

    I feel like we the fans often take into consideration to what fighters press the action and moves forward, im all for different strategies as long as we see some action and if we dont the ref should be more active to make the fighters engage with point reduction threat. But the last 2 fights didnt have a single round were the criteria octagon control got into play, there was too much action happening.

    We had examples earlier on this card with the Jouban vs Grant fight. Jouban didnt throw enough didnt cut off Grant and when exchanges happend a more or less one armed Grant actually got the better of those exchanges most of the time. So i would say it was Joubans own fault he lost, he should have tried to change something during the fight and atleast try to throw more, cut off the angles more and kicked to the body more. The fact is when u face an opponent that has good movement and cardio and ur best parts of the game are in striking then u need to use strategies to lure him in and counter, thats smart strategy. Im actully emberassed to use this as an example but look at Khalil tonight.. he used good strategy to pull off a victory against Anders thats so tough he probably would have won on his toughness if Khalil would have fought like he used to do.

    So after this little rant i would like to say i scored Holloway vs Poirier... 48-47 to Poirier.
     
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  14. Dick Niaz

    Dick Niaz “So I had to give him the 3 piece with the soda”

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    I had it 49-46, but admittedly a couple rounds could have gone either way. In those types of situations I default to Pride scoring. With that in mind I don’t care about the scores, just that it was definitely the right decision.
     
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  15. Shorinji

    Shorinji Intergalactic Destroyer of Souls

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    Had it 48-47 Holloway personally, but probably just because I was rooting for him.
     
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    48-47 Poirier.
     
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    Grateful Dude Posting Machine

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    48-47 Poirier

    But I totally understand how some of you scored it otherwise.
     
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  19. MovinOn

    MovinOn Canis lupus familiaris

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    I realize the numbers don't tell the whole story but they tell part of it.

    Significant strikes:

    1st:
    Poirier 54 of 115
    Holloway 30 of 72

    2nd:
    Holloway 32 of 89
    Poirier 31 of 74

    3rd:
    Holloway 53 of 111
    Poirier 33 of 68

    4th:
    Holloway 42 of 89
    Poirier 34 of 64

    5th:
    Poirer 26 of 60
    Holloway 24 of 85

    Totals:
    Holloway 181 of 446
    Poirier 178 of 381
    No knockdowns

    Takedowns:
    Poirier 1 of 8
    Holloway 0 attempts

    Submission attempts:
    Holloway 1
    Poirier 0


    There's not much separating these fighters. An interesting fact to remember is that Dustin already held a submission win over Max so a trilogy loses some interest because Dustin already has two victories. But I think Max is capable of beating him on a good night.

    UFC 236: A Look At The Post-Fight Stats From The Max Holloway Vs. Dustin Poirier Fight





     
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  20. Kneeblock

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    I had Poirier 1,2, Holloway 3,4 and 5 was a toss up, but I felt Poirier controlled a little more of it with lame cage pressure.
     
  21. lordofthepies

    lordofthepies Well-Known Member

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    You judge as well as the actual judges.

    (Hint - that's not a compliment.)
     
  22. conor mcgregor nut hugger

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  23. MovinOn

    MovinOn Canis lupus familiaris

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    At least Dustin didn't get screwed, or did he?

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  24. lueVelvet

    lueVelvet WHERT DA FERCK?

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    Very unfortunate shot lol

    Like my wife has been saying, we never want to see Max lose but we’re also happy he didn’t win and muddy up an already complicated division. At least he made it a good showing even though he was outgunned from the start. Dustin looked huge standing next to Max so if he wants to go up to 155 he needs to take some time and bulk up a bit before he thinks about going back against those killers.
     
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