Society JFK Assassination - Please don´t let me be a flat earther

[regular john]

Not the most original subject but to me it's all news. Only a couple months ago with a side discussion on Kneeblock's Iran-Contra War thread I got lured into obsessing about JFK conspiracies and such. Since then I read two great books: "The Texas Connection" by Craig Zirbel, and "JFK and the Unspeakable" by James W. Douglass

So my view is highly biased towards pointing the finger at the CIA, the military-industrial complex and Lyndon Johnson. From reading these books it's imposible to believe that Lee Harvey Oswald was not connected to the CIA and that the CIA was not involved. The Texas Connection book also makes a very compelling case against LBJ specifically. Is there a real argument against any of these theories? is there any way at all to believe that Oswald was not being manipulated by the CIA?

Also I believe it was @ENOCK that provided me with a link to a video that showed the driver of JFK's car turning backwards and shooting over his shoulder and I can't believe that is posible. Didn't find any follow up to it so far except that the guy pitching that story got killed in shady fashion some years later. Anyone knows anything about that?

 

[IschKabibble]

This video fucks me up...

(Timestamped)

 

[tang]

the hole is supposedly around 6mm

which is impossible with Oswald's Carcano Rifle which is 6.5mm but make sense with an 5.56 round

 

[tang]

Gunshot-wound dynamics model for John F. Kennedy assassination

 

[ThatOneDude]

the hole is supposedly around 6mm

which is impossible with Oswald's Carcano Rifle which is 6.5mm but make sense with an 5.56 round

When you say around 6 mm what do you mean, whats the actual size? Because the difference between 5.56 and 6mm and 6.5mm and 6mm are just about the same difference...

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

the hole is supposedly around 6mm

which is impossible with Oswald's Carcano Rifle which is 6.5mm but make sense with an 5.56 round

6.5mm is around 6mm.

 

[Too swole to control]

Wait til you look into 9/11 in another 40 years

 

[SongExotic2]

Two words.





















Carole Baskin.

 

[regular john]

the hole is supposedly around 6mm

which is impossible with Oswald's Carcano Rifle which is 6.5mm but make sense with an 5.56 round

There's a video on youtube where they address this sustaining that this guy heard Oswald's shots, got up with his AR-15 and accidentally shot JFK which is consistent with the lone shooter theory and leaves the CIA off the hook. Bullshit.

 

[tang]

When you say around 6 mm what do you mean, whats the actual size? Because the difference between 5.56 and 6mm and 6.5mm and 6mm are just about the same difference...

enter wound

usually slightly bigger than the actual caliber

 

[tang]

6.5mm is around 6mm.

6.5mm round can't make an 6mm enter wound

 

[ThatOneDude]

6.5mm round can't make an 6mm enter wound

You said "around 6mm", what is the exact measurement.

 

[tang]

There's a video on youtube where they address this sustaining that this guy heard Oswald's shots, got up with his AR-15 and accidentally shot JFK which is consistent with the lone shooter theory and leaves the CIA off the hook. Bullshit.

in the mlitary, there's a good way to figure out the direction of sniper fire by sticking a rod into a impact hole on an object and it points directly at the direction where the round came from

i saw some documentary, some Australian detective got a model of JFK's skull and did his own investigation and he showed the same thing.

i'm not talking about the initial shot that went through JFK and that Congressman, talking about the mystery shot where JFk's head exploded

I have no idea what the motives were but what he presents seems like the best evidence of that magic bullet given the direction where the exit wound was

 

[tang]

You said "around 6mm", what is the exact measurement.

it was 6mm

 

[ThatOneDude]

it was 6mm

Why not just say that the first time?

 

[tang]

Why not just say that the first time?

my bad

 

[ThatOneDude]

Was it a perfectly round 6 mm? a triangle?
What shape was the entry wound?

 

[ConorMcGregor NutHugger]

Not the best of sources bit at least it's not CNN.

 

[tang]

i might be off IDK, saw this documentary long ago but it explains it here... i didn't read this

Shooting holes in theory that a Secret Service agent killed President Kennedy

@ThatOneDude

 

[ThatOneDude]

Fun fact, according to a study ~70% of entry wounds created by 5.56mm rounds are actually smaller than 5.56mm.....Meaning the 6mm entry hole was more likely than not created by a bullet that is larger than 6mm and not the 5.56 round.

Entrance and exit wounds of high velocity bullet: An autopsy analysis in the event of dispersing the mass rally in Bangkok Thailand, May 2010. - PubMed - NCBI

 

[Rambo John J]

James Files knows what went down

 

[tang]

Fun fact, according to a study ~70% of entry wounds created by 5.56mm rounds are actually smaller than 5.56mm.....Meaning the 6mm entry hole was more likely than not created by a bullet that is larger than 6mm and not the 5.56 round.

Entrance and exit wounds of high velocity bullet: An autopsy analysis in the event of dispersing the mass rally in Bangkok Thailand, May 2010. - PubMed - NCBI

interesting. i guess that make sense, given that human tissue will form differently at the point of impact

 

[tang]

Fun fact, according to a study ~70% of entry wounds created by 5.56mm rounds are actually smaller than 5.56mm.....Meaning the 6mm entry hole was more likely than not created by a bullet that is larger than 6mm and not the 5.56 round.

Entrance and exit wounds of high velocity bullet: An autopsy analysis in the event of dispersing the mass rally in Bangkok Thailand, May 2010. - PubMed - NCBI

but you also have to consider the distance

 

[ThatOneDude]

but you also have to consider the distance

In regards to?

 

[tang]

In regards to?

i guess JFK shot won't matter because might be around the same distance as the riots

but doesn't bullet reach a certain distance where it could maximize kinetic energy? I'm sure that will alter the shape. not a physics guru though so I could be wrong