Lauzon makes a good point about Reebok deal

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Fabricio Werdum and Joe Lauzon speak about potential downsides of the current pay structure from the UFC's Reebok deal.

While things aren't set in stone, the current set up with the UFC's Reebok sponsorship deal is that payouts will depend on the current position in the division. With fighter pay being a sliding scale based on the voting of a ranking panel, many media members have chosen to drop out from the panel. Any talk about potential conflicts of interest isn't the only issue that people have brought up since the details of the deal came to light.

Fabricio Werdum, who currently has champion status after winning the interim belt against Mark Hunt, says that the current set up may not benefit UFC up and comers.

"It’s not 100 percent set how it’s going to be, but I think that for those who are fighting for a long time, who battled for a good position in the rankings, the champion or the top 10 fighters, will benefit from that," Werdum was quoted by MMA Fighting as he spoke to the media in Brazil. "I think that it’s not good for the up and comers, but maybe is a motivation for them. It will motivate them to get to the top."

"Since I’m in a better position, I think it’s great. I worked hard for this. For those who are starting now, you have to work hard."

It's not just about 'working hard' though. There are many long term UFC fighters who have paid their dues and made names for themselves throughout the years. While they may not be top contenders, they currently earn significantly more sponsorship money than newcomers. Such is the case with popular, albeit unranked, lightweight in Joe Lauzon.

When the Reebok deal officially starts, his position in the division may mean a significant drop in sponsorship pay. As one of the top bonus winners in the UFC, an established fan-favorite in Lauzon states that he usually gets $20-30k in sponsorship, as opposed to his estimate of $2-8k for the newer guys.

Unless there are any changes made from now, once the Reebok deal kicks in Lauzon will be treated the same way as a random UFC debutant.

"Ed Herman asked them, ‘I’ve had 17 fights in the UFC – am I going to be the same as someone on their first fight?'" Lauzon told MMAjunkie. "And they’re like, 'Yes.'"

"Joe Proctor trains at my gym. He was on The Ultimate Fighter, had a couple of (UFC) fights. He’s technically unranked; I’m unranked. But I make a lot more sponsors than he does," he continued. "Looking at the new system, we’re going to be on the exact same page, which is pretty crappy."
 

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While the Reebok money goes to the fighters, I am pretty sure any sponsors on the uniforms goes to the UFC.

Fighters getting screwed once again!
 

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Dougie;n16926 said:
While the Reebok money goes to the fighters, I am pretty sure any sponsors on the uniforms goes to the UFC.

Fighters getting screwed once again!
yep. i don't know how anyone can think this was a good idea for the fighters. this only helps brand new fighters, a few others here and there. this was all about control.
 

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ministry of silly walks;n16946 said:
yep. i don't know how anyone can think this was a good idea for the fighters. this only helps brand new fighters, a few others here and there. this was all about control.

I thought that the sponsor tax was a big screw-u to the fighters and a money grab but they managed to even one-up that!
 

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I'm not to keen on this but will see just how bad the fighters get screwed
 

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I like the idea of not seeing the clowns in the background trying to get what they are holding or wearing on tv.
 

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Dougie;n16948 said:
I thought that the sponsor tax was a big screw-u to the fighters and a money grab but they managed to even one-up that!
i'd be willing to bet that zuffa has a separate contract with reebok, so they can say that all the money from this deal is going to the fighters.
 

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I am also not keen on this. Fuckin swizzy! I'm glad fighters are speaking on it. p.s. who even wears rebook?
 

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It was obvious as soon as they announced the amount that fighters were going to get fucked.
 

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There is no fucking way that one lonely sponsor in Reebok is going to provide more money than Nike and countless other sponsors combined. A few will be better off mainly Dana and Lorenzo but most will get screwed.
 

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Do you guys think that fighters in the mid tier with a lot of ufc fights and a "know name" will look to go to another promotors, if your sponsors tips you over of what you can earn in fight pay at ufc is better in those other orgs.
 

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delightone;n17345 said:
Do you guys think that fighters in the mid tier with a lot of ufc fights and a "know name" will look to go to another promotors, if your sponsors tips you over of what you can earn in fight pay at ufc is better in those other orgs.
If it was me I would be looking to make up the extra in contracts. Whether that is through testing the waters with Bellator or just negotiating better with Zuffa. Melendez laid the blueprint for better contracts than they are now, even though I think that they would still be underpaid - as Zuffa just have to match what Bellator can offer, not offer what someone is worth.
 

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ministry of silly walks;n17017 said:
i'd be willing to bet that zuffa has a separate contract with reebok, so they can say that all the money from this deal is going to the fighters.
Yup. No way Zuffa isn't lining their pockets the way that they usually are.
 

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Mad Dog;n17419 said:
Yup. No way Zuffa isn't lining their pockets the way that they usually are.
I think the plan for Zuffa to make their money is to make a seperate sponsorship deal which will then go onto the uniform, similar to how Soccer teams do it. Although their players are employees and are paid a massive % of revenue and in some cases the clubs were run at deficits(for various reasons, but usually a sugar daddy was involved) because of how large the players command, so it is a slightly different situation.