General Left-Wingers Are a Bigger Threat Than White Supremacists

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    With liberals sounding the alarm about a supposed revival of white supremacy, a leaked report suggests that the FBI is actually more concerned about left-wing extremists.

    The FBI’s 2018-2019 Consolidated Strategy Guide, an annual summary of the agency’s security priorities, was released Thursday by The Young Turks, a leftist media network. According to the internal report, the FBI is worried about an “elevated” and possibly “growing threat” from “black identity extremists,” or “BIEs.”

    A rise in racialized attacks on law enforcement officials first came to the FBI’s attention following the 2014 shooting of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri, and the subsequent acquittal of the officers involved, the report said.


    “The FBI judges BIE perceptions of police brutality against African Americans have likely motivated acts of pre-meditated, retaliatory lethal against law enforcement in 2016 and will continue to serve as justification for violent incidents,” the document said. “While BIEs target white law enforcement officers, all law enforcement officers are considered BIE targets for their participation in this perceived unjust system. BIEs often view African American police officers as race traitors.”



    According to the report, other black identity extremists seek to establish “a separate black homeland” or at least autonomy for blacks within the United States.


    The FBI in part blamed black anti-law enforcement violence on heavy media coverage of police brutality. The agency said it has responded by launching a counterintelligence program called “Iron First,” but it provided few details.

    Why the FBI isn’t too worried about white supremacy
    When it comes to the supposed scourge of white supremacy, by contrast, the FBI identified only a “medium threat.” The agency noted that white supremacist groups are in longterm decline and predicted that their membership will continue to fall throughout 202o.

    “The FBI further judges ongoing attrition of national organized white supremacy extremist groups will continue over the next year, yielding a white supremacy extremist movement primarily characterized by locally organized groups, small cells, and lone offenders,” the report says.


    Also flagged as security threats were “animal rights” and “environmental extremists,” along with Islamist terrorists and abortion extremists.


    Ken Klippenstein, the Young Turks writer who released the FBI report, suggested that it proves that the agency is targeting black Americans and not taking white supremacy seriously enough.

    “While the documents depict concerns about violent black extremist attacks, they do not cite a single specific attack — unlike white supremacist attacks, of which several prominent examples are provided,” he said.

    Soon after the FBI completed the 2018 report, it abandoned the term “black identity extremists,” which some Democrats had deemed racist. But Democrats again complained when the FBI dropped “white supremacy” from its official lexicon as well. Instead, the agency began grouping both types of radicals under the label “racially motivated violent extremism.”


    In recent months, Democratic lawmakers have held a series of congressional hearings to grill FBI officials for allegedly minimizing the threat of white supremacy, which they see reaching crisis levels under President Donald Trump.

    “We don’t investigate ideology”
    The FBI declined to address the leaked report on the record. But a spokesperson pointed Pluralist toward officials’ testimonies in those hearings.

    In an appearance before the Senate Judiciary Committee last month, Director Christopher Wray said that many of the “domestic terrorists” the FBI has arrested in 2019 were affiliated with white supremacy. But he explained that the agency does not police ideas, even hateful ones; it simply fights crime.

    “We only investigate violence,” he said. “We don’t investigate extremism. We don’t investigate ideology. We don’t investigate rhetoric. It doesn’t matter how repugnant, how abhorrent or whatever it is.”

    Still, Democrats and liberal activists have only grown more agitated about white supremacy since last weekend’s mass shooting in El Paso, Texas, which was apparently motivated by anti-immigrant sentiment. Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, a New York Democrat, has led calls for a revival of domestic terrorism laws to crack down on right-wing violence.

    At the same time, Democrats and journalists have often downplayed incidents of violence by left-wing extremists, including a mass shooting in Dayton, Ohio, just hours after the El Paso massacre.

    Conservatives who have questioned the liberal narrative — or, as in the case of Fox News host Tucker Carlson, sought to invert it — have sometimes been viciously condemned as racists themselves.


    Leaked FBI Report Shows Left-Wingers Are a Bigger Threat Than White Supremacists
     
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    guy #1: did you hear about black mass shooter?*laughs*

    guy #2: yeah me neither.*laughs*
     
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    nazi gangs are definitely less shy now with trump in office I saw some NLR/PEN1 at the huntington Beach u.s open. the next shoot out im guessing will probably be mexican/Brazilian people getting killed by the nazi gangs in that area (HB,newport,fountain valley,costa mesa). there is assuredly a rise in white supremacy/nationalism.
     
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    it isn't the "BIE" that scares me right now I know they aren't going to shoot up a mall and kill 20-40 people. I'm pretty sure if a shooting happens in this area it will be some guy like the el paso shooter.
     
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    https://www.theroot.com/rare-gunmen-black-mass-shooters-1790868358

    Rare Gunmen: Black Mass Shooters

    It's a misconception that African Americans do not commit mass killings like the Navy yard shooting in Washington, D.C. While the number of black mass shooters is low, they do exist. Here's a list of seven black mass shooters.

    Colin Ferguson
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    Ferguson opened fire on a crowded Long Island Rail Road train in 1993, killing six people and injuring 19. In his pockets, police found scribbled notes in which Ferguson expressed his reasons for the shooting — including a previous arrest. At the trial, Ferguson's lawyers used the "black rage" defense, claiming that Ferguson had been driven to insanity because of racism and could not be held responsible for his crimes. Ferguson was sentenced to 315 years to life in prison.

    Omar S. Thornton
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    In 2010 Thornton had been called in by his employer, Hartford Distributors in Connecticut, to be disciplined for stealing inventory. After signing a resignation agreement, Thornton opened fire, killing eight people before turning the gun on himself.

    Maurice Clemmons
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    Shortly after being released from prison, Clemmons shot and killed four police officers in Parkland, Wash. Clemmons managed to evade police for two days before being shot and killed by officers in Seattle.

    Nathan Dunlap
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    Dunlap shot and killed four people in an Aurora, Colo., Chuck E. Cheese's restaurant in 1993. Yes, the same city in which James Holmes opened fire in a crowded theater during a screening of Batman in 2012. Dunlap was sentenced to death, but Colorado's current governor, John Hickenlooper, delayed his sentence indefinitely in May 2013.

    John Allen Muhammad
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    Muhammad, better known as the "D.C. sniper," was the mastermind of the 2003 Beltway sniper attacks. Over a period of three weeks, Muhammad and his protégé, Lee Boyd Malvo, killed 10 people. During the trial, prosecutors surmised that Muhammad had planned the killings in order to have a cover for the eventual murder of his ex-wife, Mildred. However, that theory was thrown out by the judge, who stated that no clear link had been established. Muhammad was executed on Nov. 20, 2009.

    Lee Boyd Malvo
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    At 17 years of age, Lee served as John Allen Muhammad's accomplice during the D.C.-sniper killings. In his confession, Lee said that he and Muhammad planned to kill six white people in order to "terrorize the nation." Lee is serving six consecutive life sentences without a possibility of parole.

    Christopher Dorner
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    Dorner's killing spree shook the Los Angeles area for nearly a week. Over nine days in February 2013, Dorner killed four people, including three police officers, and left three injured. In his manifesto, posted online before the shootings, Dorner recounted the racism he encountered while working as a Los Angeles Police Department officer and the firing that he deemed unfair. Dorner died of a self-inflicted gunshot during a standoff with police.
     
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    the operative word is RARE. white nationalist/supremacist shooters are not rare they are abundant and very much a threat on my front door right now.
     
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    I think the report is focusing on groups. You are talking about lone gunman. Most mass shooters tend to be lone gunman. The report is more about the violent group actions. Both are a problem.
     
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    So overall where you live white supremacists are out killing people more than gangs? Links?
     
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    Guys #1 and 2 should do a little more research beyond the narratives the MSM pushes.

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    the NLR and the PEN1 and other similiar gangs have been more active lately in southern california all it takes is one shooter from them and this poses more of a threat than the BIE shooters you mention white supremacy/nationalism is definitely on the rise here it isn't just histrionics from the left.
     
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    So no actual sources of shootings? They are all scum to me regardless of the color of their skin but if you are going to say they are worse than say black or Spanish gangs post some proof.

    The article is from a leaked FBI report who THEY are worried about and seeing on the rise. The media isn't reporting this. It doesn't follow their narrative. If you have contrary info to the FBI I am asking you to please post sources.
     
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    Ft.Hood shooter Nidal Hasan - Democrat, and muslim
    Adam Lanza - Liberal, hated Christians
    Columbine High School freaks - too young to vote but came from very liberal families
    Virginia Tech shooter, Seung-Hui Cho - liberal freak
    Virginia Tech decapitater - liberal
    Colorado Theater shooter James Holmes - liberal
    Live on air Roanoke VA TV station shooter Vester Lee Flanagan - liberal
    Navy shipyard shooter Aaron Alexis - liberal
    Arizona Gabby Giffords shooter Jared Loughner - Liberal, hated Bush
    The DC snipers back in 2003 - Liberals
    Chattanooga TN Marine Recruiting center shooter - Muslim democrat
    Ted Kaczynski (the Unabomber) - Leftist
     
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    That's a given.
     
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    How many of these mass shooters are drug related killings? Also I heard this pic is being floated around the web by white nationalists along with biased stats. Ps I know your not a white nationalist.... or are you?? Haha

    Is there black mass shooters? Absolutely, but the amount of poverty stricken black folks across the country with firearms if it was really an issue we would know. They will rob a mother fucker not shoot a group of innocent’s because feelings.
     
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    Depending on the the definition you are using it just means someone who killed 3 to 4 people at minimum. You don't hear about about the black killing because it's usually gang related. They aren't viewed the same as the emo white guy shooting 4 people up. The stats don't look at "feelings" it just looks at numbers of people murdered by a gunmen. Most gang violence is against other gang members so it's viewed differently by the public.
     
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    As a left-leaning white male, I feel safer than ever
     
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    I agree #maga
     
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    That’s my point odds are most are gang related which is 100% different than I’m upset and I’m going shoot a bunch of people that have nothing to do with me
     
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    Maybe we can all agree that people who shoot other people for any reason (homicide, gang related, mass shootings, carelessness, etc.) other than self defense are shitty?
     
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    Yup and I stated so also a few posts up.

    I think some of our left leaning friends are missing the point. They feel the need to be defensive when there is no need. The FBI is looking at violent groups in this one study. I'm sure they have studies of lone white EMO guys too. This is about groups who are on their radar for violence. After studying this, this is what their report determined. Just because you may not like the the conclusion doesn't mean it isn't accurate. All flavors of bad people.
     
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    It states right in the report they aren't investigating ideology. They are investigating growing threats. They feel there are more coming from the left. I realize this hard to accept given the media narrative thrown in our face every day. This was an internal report not meant for public viewing. You decide what you want to believe.
     
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