Is there an issue of Marvel not hiring a diverse group of writers/editors or is it an issue of people who want to write comic books are typically not diverse in nature?Marvel should try actual diversity among their writers and editors instead of token characters replacing longtime favorites written by the usual group of white guys.
They just need create grass root's heroes instead of taking the popular ones they have now and changing their sex or ethnicity.And why diversity? Just legitimate heroes and characters. May they be all black, all Asian, or white. None of that forced diversity full of token ethnicities. It works great in advertisement, not when you are selling authentic superheroes. They have to be realistic. People rushed to see Luke Cage on Netflix, it can be done, just keep it real.
It is a longstanding issue, well documented for decades. Famous black comic writers (all three of them) have spoken at length about only being offered certain characters and never getting cracks at the big names. In Marvel history there have only been 2 black full editors. There was a latino editor in chief for several years who is now still very high ranking at Marvel who has reversed some of the trend, but mostly among artists (as he himself was an artist).Is there an issue of Marvel not hiring a diverse group of writers/editors or is it an issue of people who want to write comic books are typically not diverse in nature?
That being said, is diversity an issue among comic writers/editors?
True except about the staff being diverse. They got Ta-Nehisi, lately Roxanne Gay for s spinoff and...?The staff is diverse. The problem is them trying too hard to be politically correct. I believe the success of their movies have pushed Hollywoods agenda into their storytelling. Plus replacing Iconic characters with people that are completely different, just because they're different, pisses of long time fans. Black folks don't want a black chick to be Ironman. We want more characters like Blue Marvel, Black Panther, & Luke Cage.
Your point is well taken, although you seem to be overemphasizing a little in order to get it across. You also didn't answer my more relevant question.It is a longstanding issue, well documented for decades. Famous black comic writers (all three of them) have spoken at length about only being offered certain characters and never getting cracks at the big names. In Marvel history there have only been 2 black full editors. There was a latino editor in chief for several years who is now still very high ranking at Marvel who has reversed some of the trend, but mostly among artists (as he himself was an artist).
Ironically DC is better at cultivating and promoting nonwhite talent, but not by much.
Does anyone here really care what color anyone is?If it's a good story or a good movie do you really care what color they are?
Does anyone here really care what color anyone is?
I used to be a comic writer. I have been to at least 4 POC themed comic conventions here on the East Coast that were packed with creators and fans. Also, somehow Milestone once existed as did Spike Lee's project for Dark horse I think it was that spotlighted creators of color. With women it's even worse considering the fanbase is estimated to be 46% female. The number of female creators has generally always been low. If you are female and a person of color, forget it. In DC comics history there have only been 2 black women to ever write a comic. At Marvel, there have only been 3, but 2 of those 3 wrote a backup story together in the book of the first. Ms. Marvel has been an interesting outlier as it's created by an all woman team including a Pakistani female editor whose life largely inspired the character and it's written by a woman who converted to Islam. This demonstrates the difference between tokenism in comics (e.g. Riri Williams) and authentic stories about real people. There is no shortage of willing talent or even fans to reach out to.Your point is well taken, although you seem to be overemphasizing a little in order to get it across. You also didn't answer my more relevant question.
What do you mean when you use the term "creator"?I used to be a comic writer. I have been to at least 4 POC themed comic conventions here on the East Coast that were packed with creators and fans. Also, somehow Milestone once existed as did Spike Lee's project for Dark horse I think it was that spotlighted creators of color. With women it's even worse considering the fanbase is estimated to be 46% female. The number of female creators has generally always been low. If you are female and a person of color, forget it. In DC comics history there have only been 2 black women to ever write a comic. At Marvel, there have only been 3, but 2 of those 3 wrote a backup story together in the book of the first. Ms. Marvel has been an interesting outlier as it's created by an all woman team including a Pakistani female editor whose life largely inspired the character and it's written by a woman who converted to Islam. This demonstrates the difference between tokenism in comics (e.g. Riri Williams) and authentic stories about real people. There is no shortage of willing talent or even fans to reach out to.
Generally interchangeable with the term creatives in design or can refer specifically to people who originate characters and bring them through the development stage to actually guiding their story arcs, look, feel and narrative backstory. Shorthand comic term for people who make comics. Can apply to both writers and artists. In my usage where I reference the conventions, most creators onsite were writer/artists, but there were several teams present as well.What do you mean when you use the term "creator"?
That's about what I figured, but thought I'd ask.Generally interchangeable with the term creatives in design or can refer specifically to people who originate characters and bring them through the development stage to actually guiding their story arcs, look, feel and narrative backstory. Shorthand comic term for people who make comics. Can apply to both writers and artists. In my usage where I reference the conventions, most creators onsite were writer/artists, but there were several teams present as well.
Discrimination isn't exactly the word I'd use. Implicit bias maybe. Privilege definitely.That's about what I figured, but thought I'd ask.
If you believe discrimination is the reason for the lack of diversity among creators how do you explain Jim Lee?
I only ask because as a kid when I regularly read comics his were pretty much the only ones I ever read. In the 90's he was the king.Discrimination isn't exactly the word I'd use. Implicit bias maybe. Privilege definitely.
As for Jim Lee, he left mainstream and started his own company then sold it to DC. Part of the deal got him an executive position since he brought his properties and talent with him.
That's cray.I used to be a comic writer. I have been to at least 4 POC themed comic conventions here on the East Coast that were packed with creators and fans. Also, somehow Milestone once existed as did Spike Lee's project for Dark horse I think it was that spotlighted creators of color. With women it's even worse considering the fanbase is estimated to be 46% female. The number of female creators has generally always been low. If you are female and a person of color, forget it. In DC comics history there have only been 2 black women to ever write a comic. At Marvel, there have only been 3, but 2 of those 3 wrote a backup story together in the book of the first. Ms. Marvel has been an interesting outlier as it's created by an all woman team including a Pakistani female editor whose life largely inspired the character and it's written by a woman who converted to Islam. This demonstrates the difference between tokenism in comics (e.g. Riri Williams) and authentic stories about real people. There is no shortage of willing talent or even fans to reach out to.
I think it would be better if blade were Japanese. Would explain his Kung Fu and stabbing people moreDoes anyone here really care what color anyone is?