Discussion in 'Cageside - MMA Discussion' started by Enock-O-lypse Now!, Dec 27, 2018.
Let the SHILLING BEGIN!!!!!!
Anything good been said?
When it ends can you summarise what was said in either bulletpoint or other concise format?
I would be ever so thankful
I'm enjoying this
novitsky says a well respected guy did a turinabol experiment on himself. he said there are short, medium and long term metabolites. he says they don't know but the long term ones might pulse lol
he says jon never tested positive for short or medium term metabolites.
pinch of salt in Olympic swimming pool!
one grain of salt, split 58 million times.
when you get to picogram levels 'the science is not exact'
"It was never determined where or how the original steroid got into his system"
So Jon through every dick pill, tainted supplement and mexican tainted meat
excuse he could at it and they found nothing to absolve him
@Splinty the initial test was 80 pcg like I said, ya fukn goof
Thats the crazy thing. So why in the fuck even test for levels that low if you
cant even adjudicate the god damn results?
Boom. Variation of tens of picograms are insignificant.
Like I've fucking said all along
experts say if picograms are in double-digits, they can't be sure. 20 or 60. who knows.
He seemed to imply this week that USADA's tests might be getting too sensitive.
@Splinty no clinical trials on oral turinabol because it's not legal.
Apologize to me and Jon Jones now
Novitzsky refusing to answer why the long term metabolites
were not detected in all the other tests.
Every time Joe asks about the long term metabolite Novitsky starts talking about
the short and medium term metabolite which is not what Joe asked him
you have beeb arguing percentages between two tests measured in tens of picograms for a week.
The difference is insignificant. Both are positive tests.
you don't need clinical trials. You can uae retrospective data on known steroid cheats like Jon Jones.
Also the Eastern Germans had plenty of clinical trials on the substance
The tests are insignificant.
You are insignificant.
oooooohhh, now I get it! It wasn't cause he took steroids, it was cause he was snorting cocaine. Thanks Rogan!
If a fighter's suspension doesn't last as long as the banned substance takes to get out of his or her system, should they get suspended again as soon as the residual figures start popping up?
He didn't present that as a way to get Jon off.
I am willing to do a self-test of oral turinabol if it helps clear Jon's good name.
he has his arms folded at times. like a defensive person.