Well the dick pills shilling was pissing me off, he didn't ask the right questions and was spin controllingCant remember the specific incident?
Coke cut with creatine cut with turinobol from china told me he wasn't just stupid, he was lying....he for sure lost me then
Then this latest shit is so damn blatant it is laughable if you look into it(as you have)
also seen him shoot down guests alternative narratives so damn quick and from such an uneducated perspective I knew he was no longer speaking from the heart or honestly...he was fearing repercussions
fuck you money made him give a fuck IMO
Lots more examples, trying to keep the post short though...the list of moments that make him lose credibility in my eyes is very long
I do watch one out of 10 or so...only guests that get to talk 95% of the time...when Joe controls the flow too much it becomes cringey IMO