Lyoto Machida to Bellator
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ufc in 2009 was way better than ufc 2018 anyways gsp , big nog, bj penn , brock,anderson silva. who do we got now? paige and sage and cm punk
Its a good signing for Bellator in the context of the fact that he is a name that many of the casuals who watched every PPV back in 2008-2011, but now barely even watch a Conor fight, know who Machida is and can see him fight for free on TV now he's with Bellator.
However, it would be silly to think even 5% of said casuals will tune into a Bellator event in 2018 just because Machida is fighting on there.
Still, without knowing how much they've splurged on him, I give this signing a 7.5/10.
However, it would be silly to think even 5% of said casuals will tune into a Bellator event in 2018 just because Machida is fighting on there.
Still, without knowing how much they've splurged on him, I give this signing a 7.5/10.
He headlined every event he’s fought in since 2013 other then being on the ufc 224 main card.
Also except for 175 and 224 were free on tv. If fans don’t know who he is then they aren’t fans.
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I love how pointing out how Bellator keeps signing over the hill UFC fighters makes one a Bellator hater.
The fact is that Bellator = UFC Lite.
Their fighters aren't as good, they don't have as many fighters, and their cards are, in general, much weaker than UFC cards.
If saying that makes me a hater in your eyes, so be it.
The fact is that Bellator = UFC Lite.
Their fighters aren't as good, they don't have as many fighters, and their cards are, in general, much weaker than UFC cards.
If saying that makes me a hater in your eyes, so be it.
Yes, that's what I meant. He's a relatively big name and has been for a while. But imo a lot of casuals stopped watching a lot of the cards when the UFC started putting on 75000 events a year and people just lost track and couldnt be fucked anymore.
What I'm saying is I don't think those people will tune into Bellator just because a name like Machida fights for them now. I do think people who still watch MMA regularly may tune in on occassion (which is awesome) and I think there is the possibility of some good fights for him.
I just hope he fights for another 2 or so years and then bows out. He's been hit and KO'ed a fair bit in recent years and would hate to see him goo down the same road as Goodridge etc.
How can you have such strong opinions on something you admit to not watching? That would be like me telling all the euros here what’s up on the World Cup thread.
I certainly don't think the quality of fighters is superior to the UFC (although with guys like Phil Davis and Bader - boring fighters who would otherwise be top 7 in the current shallow as fuck LHW division - Mousasi and Rory Mac etc, they are at least trying to give them a run) I like the fact that guys like Machida, Mitrione and even Sonnen can fight some solid rematches and matches against guys who are not elite, but also not pure squash matches either.
Okay, Machida's not top 10 anymore, but he's not exactly present day Ken Shamrock either. There are some interesting fights in Bellator that he can more than hold his own in imo.
Cmon dude you are better than that. We all love Vitor but he hasnt been Trtor in awhile
C’mon man. There’s a difference in having the opinion that the UFC roster is stronger and deeper than Bellators (which it obviously is), versus posting the same played out jokes in every Bellator thread...basically suggesting Bellator fighters suck and they shouldn’t even be putting on shows.
I agree but none of that is relevant. You’re bashing Bellator for signing a fighter that people had to pay $65 to watch last month on a UFC event. You can say he should retire but if Bellator didn’t pay him , the ufc would have and he’d be headlining another one of their events.
Without knowing how much they are investing in him, nobody can say that this is a bad signing.
Maybe they have an idea to do a Brazil card?
He is past prime, but certainly a good fighter still.
It can only be viewed as a good signing until we get info on why it isn't.
Maybe they have an idea to do a Brazil card?
He is past prime, but certainly a good fighter still.
It can only be viewed as a good signing until we get info on why it isn't.
With 36 years or older being the criteria, I counted 21 fighters like that currently under contract in Bellator.
Cheick Kongo 43
Rampage Jackson 40
Fedor 40
Matt Mitrione 39
Chael Sonnen 41
Sergei Kharitonov 37
Roy Nelson 41
Frank Mir 39
Jack Hager 36
Cro Cop 43
Alessio Sakara 36
Wanderlei Silva 41
Lyoto Machida 40
Rafael Feijao 38
Leo Leite 40
King Mo 37
Melvin Manhoef 42
Jon Fitch 40
Josh Koscheck 40
Chinzo Machida 41
Joe Warren 41
.....and 72 in the UFC
Mark Hunt 44
Brock Lesnar 40
Fabricio Werdum 40
Andre Arlovski 39
Allistair Overeem 38
Oleksiy Olynyk 40
Ben Rothwell 36
Damian Grabowski 38
Shamil Abdurakhimov 36
Chris De La Rocha 39
Azunna Anyanwu 36
Rashad Coulter 36
Daniel Cormier 39
Glover Texiera 38
Rashad Evans 38
Ed Herman 37
Shogun Rua 36
Igor Pokrajac 39
Lil Nog 42
Jimi Manuwa 38
Pat Cummins 37
Bojan Mihajlovic 38
Anderson Silva 43
Jacare Souza 38
Tim Boetch 37
David Branch 36
Thales Lietes 36
Yoel Romero 41
Trevor Smith 37
Hector Lombard 40
Magnus Cedenblad 36
Vitor Miranda 39
Dan Kelly 40
Ryan Janes 36
Robbie Lawler 36
Diego Sanchez 36
Josh Burkman 37
Yushin Okami 36
Matt Brown 37
Demian Maia 40
Dong Hyun Kim 36
Tyron Woodley 36
Michel Prazeres 36
Nordine Taken 37
Alan Jouban 36
Alberto Mina 36
George Sullivan 37
Nathan Coy 39
CM Punk 39
Clay Guida 36
Francisco Trinaldo 39
Mizuto Hirota 37
Leonardo Santos 38
Glibert Melendez 36
Frankie Edgar 36
Gray Maynard 39
Ricardo Lamas 36
Iuri Alcantara 37
Johnny Eduardo 37
Patrick Williams 36
Frankie Saenz 37
Henry Briones 37
Guido Cannetti 38
Holly Holm 36
Tonya Evinger 37
Sara McMann 37
Marion Reneau 41
Lina Lansberg 36
Barb Honchak 38
Juliana Lima 36
Alex Chambers 39
Maia Stevenson 36
Cheick Kongo 43
Rampage Jackson 40
Fedor 40
Matt Mitrione 39
Chael Sonnen 41
Sergei Kharitonov 37
Roy Nelson 41
Frank Mir 39
Jack Hager 36
Cro Cop 43
Alessio Sakara 36
Wanderlei Silva 41
Lyoto Machida 40
Rafael Feijao 38
Leo Leite 40
King Mo 37
Melvin Manhoef 42
Jon Fitch 40
Josh Koscheck 40
Chinzo Machida 41
Joe Warren 41
.....and 72 in the UFC
Mark Hunt 44
Brock Lesnar 40
Fabricio Werdum 40
Andre Arlovski 39
Allistair Overeem 38
Oleksiy Olynyk 40
Ben Rothwell 36
Damian Grabowski 38
Shamil Abdurakhimov 36
Chris De La Rocha 39
Azunna Anyanwu 36
Rashad Coulter 36
Daniel Cormier 39
Glover Texiera 38
Rashad Evans 38
Ed Herman 37
Shogun Rua 36
Igor Pokrajac 39
Lil Nog 42
Jimi Manuwa 38
Pat Cummins 37
Bojan Mihajlovic 38
Anderson Silva 43
Jacare Souza 38
Tim Boetch 37
David Branch 36
Thales Lietes 36
Yoel Romero 41
Trevor Smith 37
Hector Lombard 40
Magnus Cedenblad 36
Vitor Miranda 39
Dan Kelly 40
Ryan Janes 36
Robbie Lawler 36
Diego Sanchez 36
Josh Burkman 37
Yushin Okami 36
Matt Brown 37
Demian Maia 40
Dong Hyun Kim 36
Tyron Woodley 36
Michel Prazeres 36
Nordine Taken 37
Alan Jouban 36
Alberto Mina 36
George Sullivan 37
Nathan Coy 39
CM Punk 39
Clay Guida 36
Francisco Trinaldo 39
Mizuto Hirota 37
Leonardo Santos 38
Glibert Melendez 36
Frankie Edgar 36
Gray Maynard 39
Ricardo Lamas 36
Iuri Alcantara 37
Johnny Eduardo 37
Patrick Williams 36
Frankie Saenz 37
Henry Briones 37
Guido Cannetti 38
Holly Holm 36
Tonya Evinger 37
Sara McMann 37
Marion Reneau 41
Lina Lansberg 36
Barb Honchak 38
Juliana Lima 36
Alex Chambers 39
Maia Stevenson 36
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Lol I love how you always set a criteria that best matches your narrative
Pick the criteria
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Did people pay for him or to see Vitors 3rd retirement fight?
A more accurate measurement would be the ratio of those over 36 to
total fighters on their respective rosters. That would tell us which of the 2
have the larger percentage of over the hill fighters
Machida/Mousasi was the greatest 5 round technical battle (non-title) of all time.You know Bader wants a chance to avenge this...
Great fights for him at MW too.
