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A Milwaukee man wanted to storm a Masonic temple with a machine-gun and kill at least 30 people in an attack he hoped would show "nobody can play with Muslims" and spark more mass shootings in the United States, federal agents said Tuesday after the man's arrest.

Federal prosecutors charged 23-year-old Samy Mohamed Hamzeh on Tuesday with unlawfully possessing a machine-gun and receiving and possessing firearms not registered to him. A spokesman for the U.S. attorney, Dean Puschnig, didn't immediately respond to a question asking why charges were limited to gun possession. Hamzeh's attorney, federal defender Ronnie Murray, didn't immediately return email and voicemail messages left after business hours.

According to an FBI affidavit, agents were tipped off in September that Hamzeh planned to travel to Israel in October to attack Israeli soldiers and citizens in the West Bank. He abandoned those plans due to "family, financial and logistic reasons," the affidavit said, but refocused his efforts on a domestic attack.

Hamzeh discussed his plans extensively with two FBI informants. The affidavit said the FBI started recording his conversations with the informants in October.

Hamzeh and the two informants travelled to a gun range on Jan. 19 and practiced with a pistol. Afterward they took a tour of a Masonic temple in Milwaukee. The affidavit does not name the temple and Puschnig declined to identify it.

Masons are members of a fraternal organization that carries out a variety of activities including charity work. Wisconsin has nearly 11,000 Masons in 180 lodges, according to Frank Struble, grand master of Free and Accepted Masons in Wisconsin. The organization is not a religion.

Struble said the allegations were "hard to hear." He said he knew which Masonic centre had been targeted but declined to identify it.

"Masons are a part of an organization that helped build this country," Struble said. "I can understand from that standpoint where someone who is against this country would target us."

The owner of a downtown Milwaukee gym said she recently fired Hamzeh after hiring him as a trainer just a few weeks ago.

Delia Luna of 9Round Kickbox Fitness described Hamzeh as "very intense, very militant" as a trainer and said he didn't fit the atmosphere she wanted to create.

"He didn't mix well," Luna said.

Federal agents said that on Jan. 19 and into the early morning of Jan. 20, Hamzeh discussed his plans to attack the temple with the informants, telling them they needed two more machine-guns — the group apparently already had one — and silencers. They planned to station one person at the temple's entrance while the other two went through the building, killing everyone they saw. They then planned to walk away from the scene as if nothing had happened.

"I am telling you, if this hit is executed, it will be known all over the world ... all the Mujahedeen will be talking and they will be proud of us," Hamzeh said, according to the affidavit. "Such operations will increase in America, when they hear about it. The people will be scared and the operations will increase. ... This way we will be igniting it. I mean we are marching at the front of the war."

Hamzeh added that he hoped to kill 30 people, "because these 30 will terrify the world. The (expletive) will know that nobody can play with Muslims."

He added, "We are here defending Islam, young people together join to defend Islam, that's it, that is what our intention is."

According to the affidavit, Hamzeh met with two undercover FBI agents on Monday. They presented him with two automatic machine-guns and a silencer. He paid for the weapons and silencer in cash and put them in the trunk of his car. The agents then arrested him and recovered the guns and silencer.
 

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Good job catching that piece of shit before he could do any harm. Now, send him off to Guantanamo where you can really treat the guy like he should be treated.
 

Leigh

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Very interesting article.

Firstly, I don't trust anything the FBI says without corroboration. Due process must be maintained.

That said, try him for conspiracy to commit terrorism. Possession is a lame charge. Maybe there's something the FBI are not revealing (likely).

I wonder if the undercover agents were Muslim.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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That said, try him for conspiracy to commit terrorism. Possession is a lame charge. Maybe there's something the FBI are not revealing (likely).
It's also the first thing plead away when you're charged with a major crime. If someone had conspired to commit high treason, they should probably be charged accordingly, no?
 

jason73

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A Milwaukee man allegedly planning a mass shooting at a Masonic temple has been arrested after buying machine guns and a silencer from undercover FBI agents.

Samy Mohamed Hamzeh, 23, wanted to kill 30 people and outlined detailed plans during conversations with confidential FBI sources, the US Department of Justice said in a statement.

Hamzeh thought the two sources were his accomplices. Their conversations happened in Arabic and were recorded and transcribed by the FBI since October last year.

He had once planned to travel to Jordan to attack Israeli soldiers and citizens in the West Bank and has been under investigation since September.






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Samy Mohamed Hamzeh, 23, was arrested after buying machine guns and a silencer from two undercover FBI agents. He planned to carry out a mass shooting at a Masonic temple in Milwaukee

Hamzeh abandoned these plans because of family, financial and logistical reasons and decided to conduct an attack in the United States instead, according to the criminal complaint.

He settled on the Masonic temple, where Masons gather for fraternity meetings, earlier this month.

Hamzeh went to a local shooting range with the two FBI sources in January to practice shooting a handgun.

That same day, they took a guided tour of the Masonic temple with the two FBI sources in January, learning about meeting schedules and where people would be located during the meetings.
 

Leigh

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It's also the first thing plead away when you're charged with a major crime. If someone had conspired to commit high treason, they should probably be charged accordingly, no?
I don't follow. If someone conspired, then yes they should be charged.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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I don't follow. If someone conspired, then yes they should be charged.
I'm agreeing with you that they aren't revealing something. Generally if someone is planning to kill a bunch of people you'd charge them with that and offer dropping the possession charge for a guilty plea. In this case they're boasting about a weapons charge but not charging him with allegedly planning a terrorist attack.