General Michael Jackson, how bad was he?

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Was Michael Jackson a pedophile?

  • No he didn't like kids but molested them

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Jehannum

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We don't have to discuss the details, just want to see if you think he was a pedophile and to what degree.

 
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Michael Jackson's FBI Files Released

Lies run sprints, but the truth runs marathons. — Michael Jackson.

TL;DR: The FBI conducted several investigations on or involving Michael Jackson from the early 1990's until his passing in 2009, with the last 10 years of his life receiving an ongoing investigation which turned up nothing that would suggest he was guilty of the crimes he was accused of.

More than 70 police officers searched his Neverland Ranch property, his other places of residence were searched, dozens of computers were seized and examined, and there was nothing to suggest he had a sexual interest in children. The only porn ever found which belonged to Michael Jackson was adult, heterosexual, porn. Nothing illegal was ever found in his home.

A fake police report was released by gossip website Radar Online in 2016 which the Sheriff's Department stated was ‘falsified, with images that were never part of the original documents,' claiming those images 'appeared to have been taken from internet sources.' There were contents on the fake report which didn't even exist in 2005.

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Corey Feldman vouches for Michael Jackson’s innocence. ‘He is not that guy,’ Feldman maintains. ‘I know the difference between pedophiles and someone who is not a pedophile because I’ve been molested.’

Close friend Macauley Culkin also stands by Jackson. Nothing happened. I don't think you understand,’ Culkin said, ‘Michael Jackson's bedroom is two stories.’

In 1993, when allegations were first put against Michael Jackson, the father who accused him was recorded ON TAPE plotting against Jackson (listen to it here):

On July 2, 1993, in a private telephone conversation, Chandler was tape-recorded as saying,

There was no reason why he (Jackson) had to stop calling me ... I picked the nastiest son of a bitch I could find [Evan Chandler's lawyer, Barry Rothman], all he wants to do is get this out in the public as fast as he can, as big as he can and humiliate as many people as he can. He's nasty, he's mean, he's smart and he's hungry for publicity. Everything's going to a certain plan that isn't just mine. Once I make that phone call, this guy is going to destroy everybody in sight in any devious, nasty, cruel way that he can do it. I've given him full authority to do that. Jackson is an evil guy, he is worse than that and I have the evidence to prove it. If I go through with this, I win big-time. There's no way I lose. I will get everything I want and they will be destroyed forever ... Michael's career will be over.

In the same conversation, when asked how this would benefit his son, Chandler replied,

That's irrelevant to me ... It will be a massacre if I don't get what I want. It's going to be bigger than all us put together ... This man [Jackson] is going to be humiliated beyond belief ... He will not sell one more record.

This phone call took place BEFORE Evan Chandler said his son told him about Jackson. Also bear in mind, Chandler, a dentist, had his son SEDATED with Sodium Amytal, a drug which affects a person's memories and makes them susceptible to suggestion when he got the confession out.

After 2005, Jackson's defence attorney explains it best here where he outlines that the family which accused him of abusing 13 year old Gavin Arvizo had targeted other celebrities asking for money, including Jay Leno and Chris Tucker. Defence attorney Thomas Mesereau would also describe the prosecution's tactics as essentially throwing everything at Jackson hoping something would stick.

Take the time. Do the research from verifiable and reputable sources of information. I have literally spent years researching Michael Jackson’s life, art, and allegations and I can honestly say that if you peel back the layers of his accusations you will see that his innocence has always been there.

Edit: If you wish to know more about the trials of Michael Jackson I will link some reputable sources which are quite compelling and what I consider must-reads.

  • Reason Bound Podcast, episode 10: "Pirates In Neverland: The Michael Jackson Allegations." Host Ryan Michaels and guest, multiple award winning journalist Charles Thomson, break down everything that happened between 1993 and 2005 and explain the Michael Jackson allegations in great detail. A very absorbing and compelling podcast to listen to.

  • "Was Michael Jackson Framed?" by Mary A. Fischer for GQ Magazine, October 1994. This meticulously researched piece of investigative journalism examines the events and people involved in Jackson's 1993 accusation/ extortion attempt.

  • "One of the Most Shameful Episodes In Journalistic History." By multiple award winning journalist Charles Thomson. Thomson examines the court transcripts of the 2005 trial and compares them to the media coverage at the time and outlines how many of the crucial details which pointed to Jackson's defence went completely unreported. YouTube user, TabloidJunk, narrates Thomson's article and adds supporting video footage if you would prefer to watch that instead.
 
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Maybe he was a total pedo. I haven't watched the new documentary. But seems he was a target for con artists and that's a lot of investigating
 

KWingJitsu

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Well, much like the impeachment trial, there were no witnesses, therefore no crime!

Oh wait ... there were witnesses - and they said he didn't do squat.
Then those witnesses sued his estate after he died 'cos presumably they wanted sum of that Neverland cash.
Got denied, then made a documentary - seems legit.
 

jason73

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He was a kiddie diddler with enough money to hire johnny cochrane
 

Tiiimmmaaayyy

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Michael Jackson was a legend. He brought people of all ages, colors, religions together through his music. I don’t think there was ever proof that he was attracted to, or messed with, kids. That being said, my kids loved his music, but i wouldn’t dare have let them go to his house.
 

Hauler

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Well, much like the impeachment trial, there were no witnesses, therefore no crime!

Oh wait ... there were witnesses - and they said he didn't do squat.
Then those witnesses sued his estate after he died 'cos presumably they wanted sum of that Neverland cash.
Got denied, then made a documentary - seems legit.
 

jason73

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Well, much like the impeachment trial, there were no witnesses, therefore no crime!

Oh wait ... there were witnesses - and they said he didn't do squat.
Then those witnesses sued his estate after he died 'cos presumably they wanted sum of that Neverland cash.
Got denied, then made a documentary - seems legit.
 

Jehannum

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is the "Liked kids" part too ambiguous? ... it means he wants to fuck them not likes them as playmates ffs :D
 

Papi Chingon

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What's the difference between Neil Armstrong and Michael jackson? Neil Armstrong was the first man to walk on the moon. Michael Jackson fucked little boys.
 

RaginCajun

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Maybe he was a total pedo. I haven't watched the new documentary. But seems he was a target for con artists and that's a lot of investigating
This^^. I haven't seen the new doc but from the previous info and lack thereof, he was not a pedo.
 

Lukewarm Carl

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I think that he probably did a little grab-ass with kids and did things that he shouldn't have but I'm not so sure that he was having sex with kids. I could see him as thinking that he was touching and playing with friends his own age or showering with them like people do in locker rooms. Definitely inappropriate but not really raping them either.
 

BrunoMcGyver

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Dec 30, 2015
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I honestly don’t know. I’m not convinced either way at this point.

That said, he definitely had a heck of a lot of issues. Felt sorry for him a bit actually. You can have all the money, fame, possessions etc in the world, but none of that means shit if you’re mental state isn’t right:
 

Yossarian

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I could see him as thinking that he was touching and playing with friends his own age or showering with them like people do in locker rooms. Definitely inappropriate but not really raping them either.
Enough to get you in jail though. And that's best case scenario. Where there is smoke... lots of it. Add to that his own childhood.