Miletich: McGregor must cheat within the rules to win

[kneeblock]

Thoughts on Miletich's recommended game plan? @strikingthoughts

“Its got to be that close to a street fight,” Miletich said. “Get two warnings for everything before they take a point, and look, if you get a point taken, you get a point taken. It’s not like he’s winning on the cards anyway. I’m just being honest.”

“Mayweather’s good at scoring points, staying ahead on the cards and coasting to victories,” Miletich said. “Will McGregor pull him out of that and make him go out on a limb and try to knock him out? That’s the thing. But McGregor’s got a good enough chin, and I think he can hang around, and that means he’s in there for 12 rounds with that monstrous left hand. It doesn’t matter who you are. If you are that weight and you get hit with that left hand, its going to hurt you.”

And that’s where exploiting the limits of the rules come back into play. Miletich detailed some of the things the southpaw McGregor could do to try to throw Mayweather off his game.

“The constant pressure of the tap of the back of the head and the push to the hip at the same time to make the head pop back to throw stuff,” Miletich said. “The bringing the head through and throwing a lead hook which would be opposite side for him. Stuff like that. Blocking the leg when he gets them in the ropes, because they’re the same stance, lean forward, clashing, block the outside of the leg, and get him off balance and take the leg out from under him. Make him stumble, make him lose his balance, and unload on him.

“A lot of different stuff like that to get people off balance, you know?” Miletich continued. “That’s the thing. And he’s got to go at the same time Mayweather goes. He cannot counter by getting out of the way and throwing back. He’s gone. You have to throw at the exact same time as he throws.”

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Pat Miletich: Conor McGregor must ‘cheat within the rules’ to beat Floyd Mayweather

 

[Sweets]

Pat's absolutely correct.

 

[dacofty]

He can do pretty much anything within the rules and he will still be schooled and dominated

 

[HEATH VON DOOM]

He has a good chin?

 

[Robbie Hart]

He has a good chin?

He was "resetting"

 

[Wild]

A Jon Jones shoulder crank during a clinch up would work.

 

[LurkenLikaGherkin]

Knee taps. That's a sharp fuckin idea, esp given how much time Floyd is willing to spend with his back on the ropes playing Philly shell.

 

[Sweets]

He was "resetting"

Nahhhh! He was just tired after slapping the face of Nate for ten minutes then rendering his grappling ineffective for the next 5, ees normal.

 

[Yossarian]

Nahhhh! He was just tired after slapping the face of Nate for ten minutes then rendering his grappling ineffective for the next 5, ees normal.

He could've slipped over Nate's blood.

 

[Sweets]

He could've slipped over Nate's blood.

In fairness it was pouring out of his face, that's a real possibility.

 

[maurice]

"He cannot counter by getting out of the way and throwing back. He’s gone. You have to throw at the exact same time as he throws.”

This is definitely correct. McGregor has had a lot of success with pull counters in MMA. That's not going to work against PBF.

 

[strikingthoughts]

Thoughts on Miletich's recommended game plan? @strikingthoughts

“Its got to be that close to a street fight,” Miletich said. “Get two warnings for everything before they take a point, and look, if you get a point taken, you get a point taken. It’s not like he’s winning on the cards anyway. I’m just being honest.”

“Mayweather’s good at scoring points, staying ahead on the cards and coasting to victories,” Miletich said. “Will McGregor pull him out of that and make him go out on a limb and try to knock him out? That’s the thing. But McGregor’s got a good enough chin, and I think he can hang around, and that means he’s in there for 12 rounds with that monstrous left hand. It doesn’t matter who you are. If you are that weight and you get hit with that left hand, its going to hurt you.”

And that’s where exploiting the limits of the rules come back into play. Miletich detailed some of the things the southpaw McGregor could do to try to throw Mayweather off his game.

“The constant pressure of the tap of the back of the head and the push to the hip at the same time to make the head pop back to throw stuff,” Miletich said. “The bringing the head through and throwing a lead hook which would be opposite side for him. Stuff like that. Blocking the leg when he gets them in the ropes, because they’re the same stance, lean forward, clashing, block the outside of the leg, and get him off balance and take the leg out from under him. Make him stumble, make him lose his balance, and unload on him.

“A lot of different stuff like that to get people off balance, you know?” Miletich continued. “That’s the thing. And he’s got to go at the same time Mayweather goes. He cannot counter by getting out of the way and throwing back. He’s gone. You have to throw at the exact same time as he throws.”

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Pat Miletich: Conor McGregor must ‘cheat within the rules’ to beat Floyd Mayweather

I’ve been sitting on this question for a while now, but I think Pat’s advice is interesting. I’d be a bit weary taking approach of playing around the idea of fighting dirty. Mayweather’s team have heavily emphasized the threat of suing and extreme penalization for any kind of dirty fighting. I definitely think Conor could find some success making it a dirty fight up close where his grappling experience could give him an edge, but is it worth the monetary risk involved? He'll get a large amount taken from his pay for dirty fighting according to his Contract.

Cutting Floyd off seems like a good plan from what Pat describes but I honestly think it won’t be that easy. Floyd has seen it all and has a system to deal with escaping where he needs to. It comes down to Floyd's experience in escaping tight corners versus Conor’s experience in cutting Him off. I’d give Floyd edge in his ability to escape considering how boxers are so used to escaping such tight corners in a boxing ring. I’ve seen Floyd demonstrate the ability to adapt around getting cut off. If you move your feet to one side to block off his lead leg, he’s really good and pivoting around the other way to escape tight corners. Good defensive fighters have multiple contingency plans should one defensive level fail them.

As for attacking when Floyd attacks, I think that’s a brilliant idea. I think a bit about the situation Dominick Cruz was in. He’s known as a great defensive fighter with a fairly high defense percentage. People have had problems trying to successfully land trying to approach him, but when Garbrandt decided to draw him forward, he found his openings. It was a perfect way to draw in someone who was hard to hit. It seemed simple yet so effective to let him come into range with his attack.The most significant shots that rocked Cruz were the ones when he moved forward. It would be interesting to see someone apply the same concept to Mayweather too. Instead of chasing him down, time your attacks on his approaches. No one has been able to figure out how to counter Floyd’s shoulder roll system, so why not find openings through other means.


Floyd has been mentioning quite often how he was going to go after Conor in the fight through various interviews lately. He even went on acknowledges that Conor might even land some shots primarily because Floyd plans to play more on the offense this time around. It also makes sense to me why Floyd would campaign for smaller gloves too. If you were going to play more defensively, you’d want the bigger gloves to cover more of your targets but you’d want smaller ones if you wanted your shots to hurt more and get through. I do believe Floyd has the luxury to fight any way he chooses because of his extensive experience as a boxer. The guy has seen it all and can approach through the fight in various ways. He seems to want to make it exciting and bring the fight to Conor this time after his previous fight with Pacman was a dud for viewers. I also have a feeling that he wants to make a cultural statement about where boxers and MMA stand in the realm of combat sports.

 

[kneeblock]

I’ve been sitting on this question for a while now, but I think Pat’s advice is interesting. I’d be a bit weary taking approach of playing around the idea of fighting dirty. Mayweather’s team have heavily emphasized the threat of suing and extreme penalization for any kind of dirty fighting. I definitely think Conor could find some success making it a dirty fight up close where his grappling experience could give him an edge, but is it worth the monetary risk involved? He'll get a large amount taken from his pay for dirty fighting according to his Contract.

Cutting Floyd off seems like a good plan from what Pat describes but I honestly think it won’t be that easy. Floyd has seen it all and has a system to deal with escaping where he needs to. It comes down to Floyd's experience in escaping tight corners versus Conor’s experience in cutting Him off. I’d give Floyd edge in his ability to escape considering how boxers are so used to escaping such tight corners in a boxing ring. I’ve seen Floyd demonstrate the ability to adapt around getting cut off. If you move your feet to one side to block off his lead leg, he’s really good and pivoting around the other way to escape tight corners. Good defensive fighters have multiple contingency plans should one defensive level fail them.

As for attacking when Floyd attacks, I think that’s a brilliant idea. I think a bit about the situation Dominick Cruz was in. He’s known as a great defensive fighter with a fairly high defense percentage. People have had problems trying to successfully land trying to approach him, but when Garbrandt decided to draw him forward, he found his openings. It was a perfect way to draw in someone who was hard to hit. It seemed simple yet so effective to let him come into range with his attack.The most significant shots that rocked Cruz were the ones when he moved forward. It would be interesting to see someone apply the same concept to Mayweather too. Instead of chasing him down, time your attacks on his approaches. No one has been able to figure out how to counter Floyd’s shoulder roll system, so why not find openings through other means.


Floyd has been mentioning quite often how he was going to go after Conor in the fight through various interviews lately. He even went on acknowledges that Conor might even land some shots primarily because Floyd plans to play more on the offense this time around. It also makes sense to me why Floyd would campaign for smaller gloves too. If you were going to play more defensively, you’d want the bigger gloves to cover more of your targets but you’d want smaller ones if you wanted your shots to hurt more and get through. I do believe Floyd has the luxury to fight any way he chooses because of his extensive experience as a boxer. The guy has seen it all and can approach through the fight in various ways. He seems to want to make it exciting and bring the fight to Conor this time after his previous fight with Pacman was a dud for viewers. I also have a feeling that he wants to make a cultural statement about where boxers and MMA stand in the realm of combat sports.

Thanks for the considered response. I've thought about this a lot too and I feel like Conor's not going to be at a high enough level to pull this strategy off anyway. He's no Pep or Saddler.

 

[Disciplined Galt]

I'll go back to Vale tudo events. First the homosexuals came, and then the actors.

 

[strikingthoughts]

Thanks for the considered response. I've thought about this a lot too and I feel like Conor's not going to be at a high enough level to pull this strategy off anyway. He's no Pep or Saddler.

No problem. This is a bit of an awkward match to look at because I have no idea how Conor performs under boxing rules and what habits he has under them. His usual habits are based around an MMA environment so it's such a mystery trying to understand how he'll fight. This is a freak-show fight, but it's still interesting because we're going to get to see Floyd as an offensive artist this time while also witnessing the extent of Conor's boxing ability.

As a side note, it's going to be a scary thing when Conor returns to the cage. He's going to bring some of that boxing experience back with him. It would be hilarious though if Conor goes on a tangent again trying to conquer another combat sport. Imagine him calling out someone like Buakaw next.

 

[Jehannum]

No problem. This is a bit of an awkward match to look at because I have no idea how Conor performs under boxing rules and what habits he has under them. His usual habits are based around an MMA environment so it's such a mystery trying to understand how he'll fight. This is a freak-show fight, but it's still interesting because we're going to get to see Floyd as an offensive artist this time while also witnessing the extent of Conor's boxing ability.

As a side note, it's going to be a scary thing when Conor returns to the cage. He's going to bring some of that boxing experience back with him. It would be hilarious though if Conor goes on a tangent again trying to conquer another combat sport. Imagine him calling out someone like Buakaw next.

Losing a boxing debut while totally outmatched worked wonders for Mike Perry's MMA career, I don't see why it won't work for Conor McGregor's too. I wonder if McGregor will strike while the iron's hot and get that 3rd fight with Diaz though rather than defending against the winner of Ferguson vs Kevin Lee (or Khabib). He will want to take advantage of that recent boxing experience.

 

[tang]

Are stepping on opponent's shoes like wrestlers do illegal in boxing?

I feel Conor's lack of boxing experience won't be a big factor as everyone thinks.

This is true with most similar cases, when you're used to focusing on multiple different things and now able to only focus on one thing out of all, you're attentions are not scattered and generally able to perform better. Conor being used to performing at high pressure situations, it'll be easy to carry over everything he does, like the timing and precision and adapt to boxing situations without a problem.

The mind games were all for Floyd to come after Conor which I believe worked now that they're going with 8oz. and I believe that was Conor's plans all along where he'll chase Floyd enough but not engaging but maintaining distance until Floyd engages and counter Floyd with punches and if ends up in the pocket, Conor will use his size to bully or try to trap Floyd.

But again, Floyd is a different animal and Im so intrigued by the thought of what's going to happen.

 

[Dat Pre-HollyHolm Ronda $]

I’ve been sitting on this question for a while now, but I think Pat’s advice is interesting. I’d be a bit weary taking approach of playing around the idea of fighting dirty. Mayweather’s team have heavily emphasized the threat of suing and extreme penalization for any kind of dirty fighting. I definitely think Conor could find some success making it a dirty fight up close where his grappling experience could give him an edge, but is it worth the monetary risk involved? He'll get a large amount taken from his pay for dirty fighting according to his Contract.

Cutting Floyd off seems like a good plan from what Pat describes but I honestly think it won’t be that easy. Floyd has seen it all and has a system to deal with escaping where he needs to. It comes down to Floyd's experience in escaping tight corners versus Conor’s experience in cutting Him off. I’d give Floyd edge in his ability to escape considering how boxers are so used to escaping such tight corners in a boxing ring. I’ve seen Floyd demonstrate the ability to adapt around getting cut off. If you move your feet to one side to block off his lead leg, he’s really good and pivoting around the other way to escape tight corners. Good defensive fighters have multiple contingency plans should one defensive level fail them.

As for attacking when Floyd attacks, I think that’s a brilliant idea. I think a bit about the situation Dominick Cruz was in. He’s known as a great defensive fighter with a fairly high defense percentage. People have had problems trying to successfully land trying to approach him, but when Garbrandt decided to draw him forward, he found his openings. It was a perfect way to draw in someone who was hard to hit. It seemed simple yet so effective to let him come into range with his attack.The most significant shots that rocked Cruz were the ones when he moved forward. It would be interesting to see someone apply the same concept to Mayweather too. Instead of chasing him down, time your attacks on his approaches. No one has been able to figure out how to counter Floyd’s shoulder roll system, so why not find openings through other means.


Floyd has been mentioning quite often how he was going to go after Conor in the fight through various interviews lately. He even went on acknowledges that Conor might even land some shots primarily because Floyd plans to play more on the offense this time around. It also makes sense to me why Floyd would campaign for smaller gloves too. If you were going to play more defensively, you’d want the bigger gloves to cover more of your targets but you’d want smaller ones if you wanted your shots to hurt more and get through. I do believe Floyd has the luxury to fight any way he chooses because of his extensive experience as a boxer. The guy has seen it all and can approach through the fight in various ways. He seems to want to make it exciting and bring the fight to Conor this time after his previous fight with Pacman was a dud for viewers. I also have a feeling that he wants to make a cultural statement about where boxers and MMA stand in the realm of combat sports.

Awesome post! Many people just don't understand how defensively genius Floyd is.
Floyd now saying he wants to knock him out. I believe him. I think he actually
wants to make Conor quit or his corner throw in the towel.

Can he do it? or will Money Mac knock him senseless with the left hand?

Who knows. The cool thing is in 6 days we get to fucking find out!

 

[Jehannum]

Awesome post! Many people just don't understand how defensively genius Floyd is.
Floyd now saying he wants to knock him out. I believe him. I think he actually
wants to make Conor quit or his corner throw in the towel.

Can he do it? or will Money Mac knock him senseless with the left hand?

Who knows. The cool thing is in 6 days we get to fucking find out!

Floyd's gonna wreck him, the event in 6 days ain't gonna change a thing