Please let the UG know about this if you can.
I, mmainsurgent, have been perma-banned on the UG for starting CindyO-gate and launching a petition asking for transparency & accountability from Kirik as far as any zuffa/ufc/dana/fertittas financial interest in mixedmartialarts.tv, .com.
My "Cindy O Smashed In Defamation Suit vs Dana's Mom" was "What if'd" after creating a lot of controversy with 15K views & almost 200 replies. It was the top trending thread at the time.
- "Cindy O Smashed In Defamation Suit vs Dana's Mom" - MMA's worldwide leader in UFC news, gear and events
- Who moved Cindy O Smashed In Defamation Suit.. - MMA Forum
My "Petition: Kirik Show Us Proof Of Who Owns MMA.com?' also garnerd 15K views and 150 replies.
- Petition: Kirik Show Us Proof Of Who Owns MMA.com? - MMA Forum
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"mmainsurgent -
Sorry dude... but paying members & advertising dollar generating members are 'not' coming here to a UFC.com discussion forum URL. The UG's owner's have represented themselves as an independent MMA forum from any particular MMA organization or associated company.
Failure to disclose to the members here that Zuffa, the UFC, Bellator, or M-1 Global has an ownership stake in mixedmartialarts.tv would be a breech of trust bordering on fraudulent activity for an 'OPEN' MMA discussion forum. There is no bullshitting or two ways around this.
If there is not verifiable ownership transparency here (after all these very questionable happenings with Cindy o etc)... there can be no confidence in a free and open discussion about ANY MMA organization on this site without them controlling the discussion."
Again, both threads where the top trending on the UG for a couple of days with 30K total views & almost 300+ replies total.
I was actually able to get Kirik to make an official statement on the zuffa matter. He simply laughed off providing the community any real verifiable documentation though.
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Kirik -
The site is owned by Mixed Martial Arts LLC. That in turn is owned by me, Gabe, and Chris. I could probably post a cell pic of the articles of incorporation or something, but that is stupid.
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mmainsurgent -
Thanks for responding.
So... you're saying you refuse to show proof & transparency to paying members, and all the ad dollar generating others, that zuffa, the ufc, dana, the fertittas, or their other interest "have no ownership of MMA LLC/mma.tv-.com/The UG"???
This only leads to more conspiritorial speculation Kirik. I read your work here, your an intelligent articulte man. Do you really think that choosing 'not' aleviate many people's fears by providing some official documentation zuffa/dana/fertittas have 'no' financial backing here... helps the site's bottom line???
Even a simple official legal statement from you Kirik saying zuffa/dana/fertittas have 'no' financial interest in the UG would go a long way in restoring confidence here for a lot of the membership in you and the site. Most any company would release an official denial statement to protect it's income & brand value. To choose no official denial to the actual accusation would sure say a lot.
TS (and many concerned members) awaiting your official response Kirik???...
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Kirik -
zuffa/dana/fertittas have 'no' financial interest in the UG.
- signed, officially, Kirik
I wish they did though, if that matters.
I, mmainsurgent, have been perma-banned on the UG for starting CindyO-gate and launching a petition asking for transparency & accountability from Kirik as far as any zuffa/ufc/dana/fertittas financial interest in mixedmartialarts.tv, .com.
My "Cindy O Smashed In Defamation Suit vs Dana's Mom" was "What if'd" after creating a lot of controversy with 15K views & almost 200 replies. It was the top trending thread at the time.
- "Cindy O Smashed In Defamation Suit vs Dana's Mom" - MMA's worldwide leader in UFC news, gear and events
- Who moved Cindy O Smashed In Defamation Suit.. - MMA Forum
My "Petition: Kirik Show Us Proof Of Who Owns MMA.com?' also garnerd 15K views and 150 replies.
- Petition: Kirik Show Us Proof Of Who Owns MMA.com? - MMA Forum
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"mmainsurgent -
Sorry dude... but paying members & advertising dollar generating members are 'not' coming here to a UFC.com discussion forum URL. The UG's owner's have represented themselves as an independent MMA forum from any particular MMA organization or associated company.
Failure to disclose to the members here that Zuffa, the UFC, Bellator, or M-1 Global has an ownership stake in mixedmartialarts.tv would be a breech of trust bordering on fraudulent activity for an 'OPEN' MMA discussion forum. There is no bullshitting or two ways around this.
If there is not verifiable ownership transparency here (after all these very questionable happenings with Cindy o etc)... there can be no confidence in a free and open discussion about ANY MMA organization on this site without them controlling the discussion."
Again, both threads where the top trending on the UG for a couple of days with 30K total views & almost 300+ replies total.
I was actually able to get Kirik to make an official statement on the zuffa matter. He simply laughed off providing the community any real verifiable documentation though.
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Kirik -
The site is owned by Mixed Martial Arts LLC. That in turn is owned by me, Gabe, and Chris. I could probably post a cell pic of the articles of incorporation or something, but that is stupid.
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mmainsurgent -
Thanks for responding.
So... you're saying you refuse to show proof & transparency to paying members, and all the ad dollar generating others, that zuffa, the ufc, dana, the fertittas, or their other interest "have no ownership of MMA LLC/mma.tv-.com/The UG"???
This only leads to more conspiritorial speculation Kirik. I read your work here, your an intelligent articulte man. Do you really think that choosing 'not' aleviate many people's fears by providing some official documentation zuffa/dana/fertittas have 'no' financial backing here... helps the site's bottom line???
Even a simple official legal statement from you Kirik saying zuffa/dana/fertittas have 'no' financial interest in the UG would go a long way in restoring confidence here for a lot of the membership in you and the site. Most any company would release an official denial statement to protect it's income & brand value. To choose no official denial to the actual accusation would sure say a lot.
TS (and many concerned members) awaiting your official response Kirik???...
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Kirik -
zuffa/dana/fertittas have 'no' financial interest in the UG.
- signed, officially, Kirik
I wish they did though, if that matters.