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Splinty

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Taking an out of context dance scene is like accusing you of promoting child porn by posting the tweet.

Which of course people have already accused the twitter poster of doing, forcing her to defend herself:


View: https://twitter.com/MaryMargOlohan/status/1303911470636445696


So meta. But still ridiculous.


Anyways, I actually watched the movie tonight along with some female pediatricians.
That tweet was disturbing to me. But, the movie is not gratuitous and the movie itself continues to show the dangers of kids obsessed with likes and internet validation for sexualizing young girls.
The dance they do there is from one of the girls watching strippers online and they all pick up her dance moves. Little girls trying to be adult women. Later one of the girls posts a nude online and everyone bullies her for it, including the cuties group, "we're not strippers!" is a heavy handed line to drive home the point that the gradient of social media begs the flirt but simultaneously shames what it creates. Even the girls themselves fail to realize their dance was learned by one of the girls from strippers. They don't seem to notice they are on the gradient to going too far and did so long ago.
The dance scene in question follows a number of others and of course becomes the most sexual leading to the audience general revulsion (except noting the one guy enjoying bobbing his head along). Yet the audience is meant to be part of the entire toddler and tierra REALITY and social media REALITY in which this is all promoted every single day for real...but then the tongues start clacking if something is deemed too far, even when the accepted crossed a decency line long ago. The movie seems clear that it dislikes half naked girls dancing and yet that's okay with producers, the audience, coaches, etc. Just don't twerk or WAP (hey all the girls are WAPing on tiktok now, all the way to high school freshman or younger) and its okay with everyone, but the movie ironically.

The movie regularly demonstrates the lack of parental figures leading to this social media validation and ends with parents involved the main star back doing kid things like she should be. That's the lesson. The movie is a not a pedophile celebration.

No one that watched the movie tonight thought the dance scene was gratuitous in the context of the movie, including the women pediatricians. I asked them about the harm of the actresses and if the movie was soft fodder for pedophiles undercover. They thought that was a ridiculous question and states that this and more is on tiktok with their patients every single day. This movie is a commentary on what they are counseling and battling in childhood development every day.

So again, the movie's point is to make you realize that all the stuff you are comfortable with up until then is just gradients of the same and the kids need adults and intervention long before then.
 

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something is different about the way that tweet video is cut

Where is this guy for instance?


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UNL780Re2I&feature=emb_title&t=2m35s


I'm not going to take my time doing a frame by frame, but something is different there in audience reaction and maybe more


EDIT - looks like the tweet cuts off early
 

Shinkicker

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Lol
Was going to timestamp the audience reaction in my post to illustrate the revolted faces and, I assume, token child molester loving the show and it wasn't there.
I'll trust you on that one. Lol

I appreciate your break down on the film. It sounds logical and it's relevant to current times. But I also wondered if they made this sexy child film and said, "well, we can get away with it if we portray it as bad at the end."

Could you see it that way? Or is it well done with a clear message?
 

Papi Chingon

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Taking an out of context dance scene is like accusing you of promoting child porn by posting the tweet.

Which of course people have already accused the twitter poster of doing, forcing her to defend herself:


View: https://twitter.com/MaryMargOlohan/status/1303911470636445696


So meta. But still ridiculous.


Anyways, I actually watched the movie tonight along with some female pediatricians.
That tweet was disturbing to me. But, the movie is not gratuitous and the movie itself continues to show the dangers of kids obsessed with likes and internet validation for sexualizing young girls.
The dance they do there is from one of the girls watching strippers online and they all pick up her dance moves. Little girls trying to be adult women. Later one of the girls posts a nude online and everyone bullies her for it, including the cuties group, "we're not strippers!" is a heavy handed line to drive home the point that the gradient of social media begs the flirt but simultaneously shames what it creates. Even the girls themselves fail to realize their dance was learned by one of the girls from strippers. They don't seem to notice they are on the gradient to going too far and did so long ago.
The dance scene in question follows a number of others and of course becomes the most sexual leading to the audience general revulsion (except noting the one guy enjoying bobbing his head along). Yet the audience is meant to be part of the entire toddler and tierra REALITY and social media REALITY in which this is all promoted every single day for real...but then the tongues start clacking if something is deemed too far, even when the accepted crossed a decency line long ago. The movie seems clear that it dislikes half naked girls dancing and yet that's okay with producers, the audience, coaches, etc. Just don't twerk or WAP (hey all the girls are WAPing on tiktok now, all the way to high school freshman or younger) and its okay with everyone, but the movie ironically.

The movie regularly demonstrates the lack of parental figures leading to this social media validation and ends with parents involved the main star back doing kid things like she should be. That's the lesson. The movie is a not a pedophile celebration.

No one that watched the movie tonight thought the dance scene was gratuitous in the context of the movie, including the women pediatricians. I asked them about the harm of the actresses and if the movie was soft fodder for pedophiles undercover. They thought that was a ridiculous question and states that this and more is on tiktok with their patients every single day. This movie is a commentary on what they are counseling and battling in childhood development every day.

So again, the movie's point is to make you realize that all the stuff you are comfortable with up until then is just gradients of the same and the kids need adults and intervention long before then.
You seem to be justifying the film for the purposes of it being a learning lesson to civilization as a whole. Very odd. Based upon the filming itself, numerous people have chimed in stating that the film crew zooms in on areas of the girls that are inappropriate, and certainly not be that visible by crowds 20 or 50 feet away. Perhaps the "justification" for the film was a lesson to be learned at the end, but if what I'm hearing from people who I deem as credible, this isn't about a lesson to be learned, it's about sexual exploitation of children. If it wasn't, perhaps the filming crew would have kept their cameras and zoom lenses at a "safe" distance.

Some dipshit reporter said that all the negative backlash was due to people not watching, and stated that they should indeed watch the show. I'm not watching that.

The marketing was geared towards their objective, and it wasn't to tell people to watch over their kids' behaviors. There are MANY other ways do so without showing adolescent camel toes.
 

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Was going to timestamp the audience reaction in my post to illustrate the revolted faces and, I assume, token child molester loving the show and it wasn't there.
The token child molester is the audience they are catering to by putting this on Netflix. Had they shown a chomo salivating in the audience, they wouldn't have been able to put this film out and claim it's just a lesson. Any chomos were edited out, as they would have ruined the money this shit is generating.

If no chomos were in the audience, certainly there were chomos behind the cameras from what i've been hearing, and these shots made the final cut, so who are they marketing to? Pediatricians? Come on....
 

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You seem to be justifying the film for the purposes of it being a learning lesson to civilization as a whole. Very odd
Aren't many films done that way? To have a message relevant to society?
Children's films as well, like, you have to show mobbing and it's repercussions to show mobbing is bad.

Now, I haven't seen this one and probably won't. They might have gone too far. But the principle isn't really new, and not touching such a delicate subject at all isn't gonna make it go away either.
 

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You seem to be justifying the film for the purposes of it being a learning lesson to civilization as a whole. Very odd
Yawn...
I watched the movie instead of taking Twitter hot takes. Apparently I'm the only one. It is what the director said. A lesson and film experience on growing up on two cultures in current times. There no celebrating the sexualizing of young girls in the story.




Based upon the filming itself, numerous people have chimed in stating that the film crew zooms in on areas of the girls that are inappropriate, and certainly not be that visible by crowds 20 or 50 feet away. Perhaps the "justification" for the film was a lesson to be learned at the end, but if what I'm hearing from people who I deem as credible, this isn't about a lesson to be learned, it's about sexual exploitation of children. If it wasn't, perhaps the filming crew would have kept their cameras and zoom lenses at a "safe" distance.
Feel free to link me to whatever it is that you're reading...

Anyways the zoom in is followed by a wide shot (not in the tweet) that leave the girls suddenly very uncool and laid bare. Just girls sitting there kind of awkwardly gyrating trying to look cool and suddenly has a very different feel than the zoom in shots with loud music. It's a good film technique in which it seems the start the girls are portrayed the way they think they are and the audience gets revolted and then the zoom out shot happens and you kind of see them how the audience would see them just awkward and weird.


There are MANY other ways do so without showing adolescent camel toes
I actually agree here. While the dance scene only encompasses less than 2 minutes of the entire movie, zooming it differently would have been likely just as effective in storytelling. It still should have been zoomed in glitzi and music video like followed by a zoom out awkwardly.

and these shots made the final cut, so who are they marketing to? Pediatricians?
Movie is about a Senegalese girl in France growing up making some good and some bad choices. The director is a Senegalese girl that grew up in France making some good and some bad choices.

I suspect she made the movie for everybody as she said she did. I'm not aware that the US version cuts the movie any different than the French version. If so that would be concerning and make me less likely to take her at her words and she's been removed.

Just like I didn't "justify the movies existence" by writing a review of it after many hoopla, watching it with female pediatricians doesn't mean the movie was "made for pediatricians" but that I ever implied it was.
 

Papi Chingon

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Yawn...
I watched the movie instead of taking Twitter hot takes. Apparently I'm the only one. It is what the director said. A lesson and film experience on growing up on two cultures in current times. There no celebrating the sexualizing of young girls in the story.






Feel free to link me to whatever it is that you're reading...

Anyways the zoom in is followed by a wide shot (not in the tweet) that leave the girls suddenly very uncool and laid bare. Just girls sitting there kind of awkwardly gyrating trying to look cool and suddenly has a very different feel than the zoom in shots with loud music. It's a good film technique in which it seems the start the girls are portrayed the way they think they are and the audience gets revolted and then the zoom out shot happens and you kind of see them how the audience would see them just awkward and weird.




I actually agree here. While the dance scene only encompasses less than 2 minutes of the entire movie, zooming it differently would have been likely just as effective in storytelling. It still should have been zoomed in glitzi and music video like followed by a zoom out awkwardly.


Movie is about a Senegalese girl in France growing up making some good and some bad choices. The director is a Senegalese girl that grew up in France making some good and some bad choices.

I suspect she made the movie for everybody as she said she did. I'm not aware that the US version cuts the movie any different than the French version. If so that would be concerning and make me less likely to take her at her words and she's been removed.

Just like I didn't "justify the movies existence" by writing a review of it after many hoopla, watching it with female pediatricians doesn't mean the movie was "made for pediatricians" but that I ever implied it was.
Last night Tucker, Sean, and Laura had brief segments on it. I don't do social media, as it is the poison of society. I suppose one could say that my news is swayed, however, if you take Rotten Tomatoes 90% positive rating on the movie, one could say that is swayed as well. Hollywood is disgusting, and on one hand you have the Weinstein's of the world getting the book thrown at them, yet on the other hand a movie like this is getting rave reviews as something that is brilliant and everyone should watch. So much for the me too movement. I personally thought The Professional went overboard with the little girl's character and her attire, but here we are years later with a movie that stars 11 year olds wearing less than complete wardrobe and dancing and posing in ways that shouldn't be normalized. It isn't a documentary, it is a directed movie, therefore thought out and acted out via the script.