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New Ken Shamrock Interview

Discussion in 'Cageside - MMA Discussion' started by William C, Dec 4, 2017.

  1. William C

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    Hey Guys-

    I did another interview concerning the beginnings of MMA (in this latest incarnation of the sport).
    This is (another) Ken Shamrock interview, this time a two parter.
    First part is up, next part should be up tomorrow:

    Origins of Combat: The (follow up) Ken Shamrock Interview, Part 1

    Part two has some great stuff on behind the scenes of newborn U.W.F., PWF-Gumi, Pancrase, some talk on worked matches, and some interesting Bart Vale references.

    My next interview after this current one I'm gonna give to this forum- that one covers the Australian fighters that were prevalent in Pancrase in 1994 to 1995. We learn about how they entered the company and what the experience was like on their end (through one of their two head coaches).

    Bill
     
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    Very cool! Many thanks
     
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    All good stuff.Interesting how Ken avoids talking about some parts by saying that he won`t get into that.

    Bill was there some questions that you knew the answers too that Ken wouldn`t talk about?

    *Don`t worry I won`t ask which questions were they.
     
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    @William C@William C please tell me you're going to profile Gregory Smit and Larry Papodopoulos?
     
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    Man Bart really got under Ken's skin by calling him locker room cancer.
     
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    Yeah, between both of my interviews with him, there was definitely stuff that I felt he had info on but wouldn't talk about (at least bluntly). Stuff having to do with other fighter's careers, or certain organizations. But almost every fighter was holding back some stuff- that's only normal. Some things Ken said, he would give answers- but you would need to read between the lines. Which is fine, as it goes with that era I'm researching.
     
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    Chris De Weaver. I would love to interview those two also though- especially Greg.

    Greg was IIRC the first Australian to enter Pancrase, and he trained with Gotch. He wasn't associated with the other Australians, although they did share techniques.

    Larry and Chris owned a security company and were basically the team leaders of all the other Australians who entered Pancrase back then. Chris was at every practice and gives the lowdown on everything, including his Pancrase rules fight with Minoru Suzuki that was held in a co-promotional show outside of Pancrase.
     
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    I never asked Ken about that match, but that would likely fall under the category of something not expanded on (I'm guessing).
    I did ask Jason about that match though (years ago).
     
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    Ken`s early days in Pancrase with Bas,Jason & Frank.

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    I wonder if Ken was managed by the late Phyllis Lee?

    I know that she had some power with the organization concerning American fighters such as Marquardt.
     
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    I have a feeling that Ken respected the Nasty Boys & while at the airport he didn`t want to catch another beatdown from both of the Nasty Boys again.I don`t think that fear of being arrested would have stopped him.
     
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    Greg was kind of like the Brooklyn Brawler of Pancrase. He, Vernon White and Katsuomi Inagaki seemed to be the perennial losers in the promotion and sometimes got beaten up badly. I'd be fascinated to know how many of these 3 guys fights were legit versus put overs. They were either really bad or working for the check.

    This is a great bit of interviewing @William C@William C but that's no surprise. We've been talking Pancrase and Ken for years so I know you know all your stuff well enough to do a great job. Keep up the great work!
     
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    I strongly doubt she had anything to do with managing Ken.
    Ken was managed by his dad, if anybody. Her name never came up as being involved with him anywhere I've seen.
    Don't forget Ken was already a valuable quantity at the end of U.W.F.
    IIRC (it's in my first Ken interview from a couple years ago) in 1991 Soranaka gave Ken 30K cash up front to wrestle through that year for PWFG.
    Then when PWFG was done and Pancrase started, Ken had more clout and was involved a bit with the show behind the scenes.
    There was never a need for her in his case (or his Lion's Den fighters).
     
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    Hey thanks man! More good stuff coming (lots of it).
     
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    holy shit look at Bas

    EL Guapo for sure
     
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