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It's official: UGA is in the SECCG no matter what. They'll play the winner of Texas v A&M
Honestly, that sucks lol. Downside to all of those upsets yesterday
I'm amazed at people calling the flag that brought the bama touchdown back a bad call. You would think that professionals who work for ESPN would understand that a tightend, as an eligible receiver, cannot be covered up without declaring himself on a passing play. That's why the ref waited to throw the flag when the qb threw the ball.
I didn't see the play but you're the first person I've seen explain it as a correct call.
Most think we win next week vs Tech and we're in. I'm greedy. Let's win them all.
Pause at the beginning. He is clearly covering the tightend on the line. If it is a run play, it's a legal formation. If it is a pass play, the tightend must declare himself not an eligible receiver (possibly change jerseys to a different number). He is by default otherwise.
View: https://youtu.be/3nHsRWsSZTI?si=28XRLjpUEJy6bfqL
View: https://youtu.be/3nHsRWsSZTI?si=28XRLjpUEJy6bfqL
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But Williams wasn't covered up.
The guy to his right was off the line, being 1 of 4 players in the backfield. Williams was the outermost player on the line, which would have made him eligible. Williams was covering up the TE so the TE was ineligible - but the TE was in pass pro for the entire play.
It's possible I'm missing something here. I'm not an alignment specialist.
I've never heard of a TE having to declare himself as ineligible unless he lines up out of position - not the case here.
If the dude to Williams' right at the bottom of the pic is on the line, THEN Williams (and the TE) are ineligible to catch a pass.
So the ref was saying the dude at the bottom of the pic was on the line. He quite obviously isn't.
Unless I'm not understanding the rules - I'm going with terrible call.
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We can use one of my favorite formations of all time with Zeke at center as another example:
The guys I circled are eligible receivers in this formation. Assuming the lineman on the far right declared himself as eligible if he was numbered as a non-receiver (50-79; 90s)
The guys I circled are eligible receivers in this formation. Assuming the lineman on the far right declared himself as eligible if he was numbered as a non-receiver (50-79; 90s)
Good lookin chica you got there broham. Congrats.
Also - You ain't getting the natty.
You're not.
Simply, you cannot have 2 eligible receivers on the line of scrimmage on the same side of the ball. Notice your ninja formation example doesn't violate this rule.
That's why you cannot line up 3 receivers on the line with a running back behind them and throw a screen. It's and illegal formation. I beleive in the NFL, it's illegal regardless.
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The TE wasn't eligible because he was covered up by Williams. Nor did the TE go out for a pass. So only 1 receiver on the line on the right side for that play.
It doesn't matter. The tight end is considered an eligible receiver before the ball is snapped based on his number. If you put a wide receiver there, it's illegal, if you put a lineman there it is not.
I think you are wrong on this bruh.
The TE is considered eligible/ineligible based on formation.
If he is covered up, he's ineligible.
If he's the outer most dude on the line, he's eligible. That's it.
Either way - I'm super glad Bama lost and if they got fucked because of a shit call...
Linemen numbered 50-79 and in the 90s must declare if they are eligible. Once they do that, all the standard formation rules apply.
I also think the reverse is true where if a dude with a number outside of a typical lineman is playing center, guard or tackle that they need to report as playing out of position. Like I'm assuming Zeke did on that other post I made.
Maybe it's different in high school/college. My understanding of these rules is strictly NFL.
The difference between the nfl and college/high-school, is that if the tightend, based on his number is covered up by another receiver it is automatically an illegal formation.
In college, you can cover him up on running plays, but if you throw the ball, it is illegal. I am 100% sure.
In college, you can cover him up on running plays, but if you throw the ball, it is illegal. I am 100% sure.
I'm watching the NFL right now. The Bucs just ran a play with a TE and a WR lined up 4 feet to his right on the line. No flag. TE was in pass pro.
Tight End Covered Penalty
Based on the provided search results, a “tight end covered up” penalty occurs when a team lines up with an ineligible receiver on the line of scrimmage, typically when a tight end and another receiver (e.g., a slot receiver) are both on the line, making the tight end “covered up”. This is considered an illegal formation, resulting in a 5-yard penalty, but no loss of down.
Based on the provided search results, a “tight end covered up” penalty occurs when a team lines up with an ineligible receiver on the line of scrimmage, typically when a tight end and another receiver (e.g., a slot receiver) are both on the line, making the tight end “covered up”. This is considered an illegal formation, resulting in a 5-yard penalty, but no loss of down.
Interesting.
Is that HS, college, NFL or all 3?
In the NFL, it's automatic. In college, because of option offenses and such, you can run but not pass or at least that's how it was last I checked.
Honestly, when watching it back, I think the tightend just lined up wrong because there is no reciever on the other side of the ball that I can see. That's normal trips if the tightend is on the other side.
Edit, yeah, the tackle on the otherside is completely uncovered which is unusual unless you're trying to do something tricky.
Edit, yeah, the tackle on the otherside is completely uncovered which is unusual unless you're trying to do something tricky.
What do you mean by "automatic" in the NFL?
TE on line next to tackle, covered by WR.
Pass play. TE stays back in pass pro.
Illegal or no?
Because it sounds like you are saying that's a flag. And I'm thinking I see that formation all the time in the NFL.
