Abuse by females is also more likely to go unreported, so the statistic in itself is inaccurate.
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It is, but emmry is accurate that most child abuse is due to a male.
I just disagree with extrapolating that to the assumption that then men should be in an uphill battle for custody of their own children.
Most inmates are black. We going to use that as justification that black men should prove they arent criminals?
Hard for me to wrap my head around this vision before me.
Sure. But my issue with including it in the MRA framework has more to do with the fact most MRA arguments are really just rebranded sexism, and fathers rights is a real issue that actually exists. Not just a fiction created by dweebs who are mad at feminists because they cant get laid. Women's rights are real issues across the board, largely.
I don't think gay men are as violent, but again, this issue is very complex and I agree there is a bias against men which is problematic, but I also understand why the courts have this bias. I don't have easy answers or easily qualifiable positions. And I haven't fully studied it either so I am not comfortable delving too deeply and making major statements like I am with other issues. I have some educated guesses but its an area of study for me.
Dude I can walk upstairs to an empty 8 year old's bedroom unoccupied since October. I don't think all men should face an uphill battle and I don't know what else I can say. Its too complex, I don't fully have firm opinions on it and the ones I do still require their own shit storm.
Man, for someone who is a not a conservative, and criticizes conservatives for their racism/sexism, you sure do like to paint with broad strokes. Instead of treating people as individuals.
I don't understand this. This entire thread has been me making statements, people taking them as broad strokes applicable in all cases and me saying "uh it doesn't work that way". How does THIS offend you? Jeesh bruh.
The meme seems like its undermining the very real discrimination that Italian immigrants have faced in North America.
It doesn't offend me, your stance is interesting to say the least. You advocate for things that paint with a broad brush. But then say you know of everyone is different. It's just a confusing stance that makes it almost like you are just after social brownie points.
I agree, I simply point it out because it isn't something that should be ignored. My wife studied the topic extensively while doing her psych degree, and she gets pretty upset when the internet brigade starts trotting out half stats worded in a manner to make them technically correct, but extremely misleading, and detrimental to the cause as a whole.
Demographic realities exist without them being absolutes. Common sense man. Except when it comes to self identified MRAs. They are absolutely awful every time.
So you're aware that statistically a father is the person in a household most likely to end up murdered by a family member, right?
Source?
So by that reasoning the demographic reality must be that black males aged 18-35, commit the most crimes, so it's good that they are locked up disproportionately? Are you saying I should have my best friend,
@Stillmatic, arrested because statistically speaking he's more likely to commit a crime because he's a large 32 year old black man from 6 mile in Detroit?
Murder rates against fathers often are skewed because whether it is murder or defense of abuse is hard to ascertain in situations, I know. If it is true that fathers are the most likely killed family member that would be a surprise to me. Women are far more likely to be killed by domestic partners. At a 2-1 rate. I know that.
No, the demographic reality is black men are arrested more. What one can extrapolate from that is contextual on other data.So by that reasoning the demographic reality must be that black males aged 18-35, commit the most crimes, so it's good that they are locked up disproportionately? Are you saying I should have my best friend,
But by the argument you use for women getting custody most of the, that surely can apply to black men as well no?
Yea I donno bro, I know I haven't mentioned it but I am not really interested in that debate today. I should have said that six times before now. Don't know why I didn't.
Yes, much like how you say one thing but actively promote racism and sexism. I'm jus sayin
Was looking at one the other day, I'll try to track it down.
*Edit: This is a start about domestic violence as a whole:
REFERENCES EXAMINING ASSAULTS BY WOMEN ON THEIR SPOUSES OR MALE PARTNERS: AN ANNOTATED BIBLIOGRAPHY
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Why the ad hominem? Especially this kind of one designed just to start an argument man. You know damn well after 199 pages that I am fighting against those things. At the most you can disagree but to say I am advocating racism or sexism is just an inflammatory attack. You can disagree with my strategy, or modern social justice, but to say its "racist" is just cheap.
But is it cheap? I stated this earlier, it seems like the position you hold is because you view white men as that much superior that anyone not a white male needs help based solely on race or sex to make up for the past. To me, that seems fairly racist. Obviously I know you're not marching around in a kkk hood saying women need to be stoned for touching a man not in her family.
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