This statement completely invalidates any of your political opinions as it is 100% factually wrong. Not difference of opinion; wholesale wrong.
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Very good, Jason...you're learning to draw quite well. And your lines are very straight, Good boy, you get a gold star.
Apparently you didn't follow the last federal election up here. If you had, you'd have seen the NDP move quite far towards the center. Since then, they have voted out their leader (who remains the interim leader) and it's unclear where they're going. So far no new leadership candidates have declared their intention to run so the NDP is in a state of flux at the moment. Today it was announced the Liberals are abandoning their promise of electoral reform by the next election in 2019 and it looks like the NDP may be poised to seize on that as a major policy plank in their next election platform. So no, my statement about the NDP invalidates nothing. I'm a retired journalist and I don't know about a lot of things. MMA for example. I'm a new fan and learning a lot. But I know Canada and Canadian politics very well, been following it all my life, worked for the govt for a while in the 80's, hosted a call-in radio show...I'm pretty confident I know what I'm talking about. You, on the other hand, I know nothing about and so you'll forgive me if I don't defer to your expertise on Canada.
The analogy may not be best practice when it comes to actually training dogs, but that wasn't it's purpose here. As an analogy, it did it's job. As for calling me ignorant about the subject at hand, that's fine. You can say that but if that's all you're going to say, you lobbed an insult. Congrats. If you want to make an actual argument, based on the facts and circumstances of the story and use that to demonstrate my ignorance, show me where I'm wrong, you're free to do that as well. Somehow, I don't expect cogency to follow but maybe you'll surprise me.
If that's directed at me, I'm going to refer you to my previous posts and invite you to find your error.
<<On the left side of the spectrum, but a long, long way from anything that could be called the "far left".>>
A for drawing, F for reading comprehension.
Why don't you tell me how I was wrong instead of being smug about it?
In the aftermath of a mass shooting, do I think it seems odd that the police where being thorough in their investigations and didn't want to accidentally release a possible suspect? Nope.
The 'news report' you posted was shit. Bias and intending to incite negative feelings.
I'm not being smug, I'm simply tired of repeating myself. If you want to comment I think you at least have an obligation to know what's been said already, rather than making me repeat myself endlessly. Your claim is wrong, I didn't say that and would never say that. I've even explained why I would never say that. Previous posts will reveal that, so I continue to suggest you read them.
Canadians are going to continue to try to understand what happened in Quebec because we are not content to let this become the new normal. Every factor that led up to this tragedy will be examined. The purpose will be to try to understand why it happened and what could be done to prevent a similar occurrence in the future. People keep throwing the word "blame" around. You can't blame Trump, they cry. No, Trump didn't pull the trigger, Bissonette did and, as such, he is the one to "blame". He and he alone is directly responsible for what happened. That doesn't mean we're not going to try to figure out what influenced him to commit such a bloody-minded attack and the Trump-effect is clearly one of those influences.
I'm only connecting the dots you threw out there. How else should I interpret that you fine Canadians will never stoop to our level?
No, you're not. You've not connected anything. And I have no idea what this means: How else should I interpret that you fine Canadians will never stoop to our level? I imagine fine is a typo and you meant "find". The rest of it is something I didn't say, nor would I. To me, it doesn't make sense. Stoop to who's level? There are a great many "levels" in both our countries.
I'm sorry but I'm not going to play this game where you post something and claim I said it when they are not my words. Continue and you'll be met with the standard form-letter response which I've already given to you once. I have no problem telling you to go back and read what I've actually written as many times as it takes for you to get the message.
Take a time out, Use it to read my previous posts. Concentrate hard. You'll get there eventually.
The few sentences I quoted spoke for themselves. You think this kid was inspired by Trump and LePen. And now you're denying it for some reason.
He was voted out for leaning too far toward the center for the party's liking even though they were still by far the farthest left of the major parties. Canada has only left wing parties, the closest to center maybe, maybe center right, are the Conservatives. Far right does not exist in Canadian politics, and hasn't since about 1990.
Even the electoral reform you're referring to, was a very leftist idea. If the NDP decides to jump on it, that only reinforces their old socialist strategies.
No, another fail on your part. I do, and continue, to think he was inspired by Trump and LePen. I didn't say they were the ONLY influences, just that they were among them.
And that Canada will never stoop to that level of divisive politics which drive people to mass shoot each other, right?
So is that why the police won't reveal the motive of the shooter even though he's being "very co-operative"?
The far right has never existed in Canadian politics and neither has the far left. It's a very centrist country but to claim the Conservatives are on the left of anything is simply to reveal your lack of knowledge of the Canadian political scene. They are, and will be the first to tell you, a decidedly right wing party. And electoral reform is not a "very leftist" idea. I invite you to do a bit of digging into the plethora of countries that use some form of a PR system. You'd be hard-pressed to support your claim these are "far left" countries, Regardless, it was a major plank in the Liberal platform. It was a promise, no two ways about it. If the NDP jumps on it, it will be far more.for pragmatic political advantage than anything else. This is a party that's struggling for legitimacy right now. They are desperate to regain political relevance again.
"stoop to that level" is your quote, not mine. Those aren't my words.
It's what I inferred from your harsh initial post. Just trying to throw some ying to your yang.
Quote me properly or don't quote me at all. What you inferred has no bearing on anything. It doesn't excuse you one bit. If you have a question, ask it. Otherwise, my words are all I need to defend, not your inferences. That's on you.
Excuse me from what? lol
You changed your words anyway. No sense in arguing if you're going to change your stance on the fly.
You went from "directly inspired" to "among the influences."