Society Question About Jury Duty

[sparkuri]

Some companies have their own rules. A large company has to meet a minimum requirement but they can exceed it. A small business just needs to give you the time off. A % isn’t a thing.

The government pays you wages.
It varies, by percentage, by state, county, region. Like prevailing wage.
Different in say, Seattle, than in Butte Montana.
I assume federal cases are flat rate?

This could've changed...it's been at least a decade since I was close enough to rejection.

 

[Never_Rolled]

The government pays you wages.
It varies, by percentage, by state, county, region. Like prevailing wage.
Different in say, Seattle, than in Butte Montana.
I assume federal cases are flat rate?

This could've changed...it's been at least a decade since I was close enough to rejection.

Do you mean per diem pay to sit on a jury? Fed is $50 and states vary. Not 100% sure but is could even vary county to county. I thought you were talking about employer pay while out on jury duty.

 

[Never_Rolled]

hahaha Holy shit I looked up some states. In Illinois in most places it's like $4.00 per day.

 

[sparkuri]

Do you mean per diem pay to sit on a jury? Fed is $50 and states vary. Not 100% sure but is could even vary county to county. I thought you were talking about employer pay while out on jury duty.

I've never heard of an employer paying an employee for jury duty. That would be news to me.

 

[Thuglife13]

hahaha Holy shit I looked up some states. In Illinois in most places it's like $4.00 per day.

 

[Never_Rolled]

I've never heard of an employer paying an employee for jury duty. That would be news to me.

They pay them their salary or daily rate if bound by the law. It isn't for jury duty per se. Small companies aren't required. I think it's 50 or less. If you get paid by your company most courts wave paying you too.

 

[Bozy]

I've received 3 jury duty letters in my life. All 3 were delivered weeks late. One was 3 months late. They say the judge can issue a bench warrant for your arrest in NC if you don't show up for jury duty. But they dont issue them through certified mail. So I'm not sure what the process is. I've heard it's around $8 per day and your job only has to allow you time off. No pay. So, you either burn vacation/holiday pay. Or lose a days pay .

 

[Never_Rolled]

I've received 3 jury duty letters in my life. All 3 were delivered weeks late. One was 3 months late. They say the judge can issue a bench warrant for your arrest in NC if you don't show up for jury duty. But they dont issue them through certified mail. So I'm not sure what the process is. I've heard it's around $8 per day and your job only has to allow you time off. No pay. So, you either burn vacation/holiday pay. Or lose a days pay .

That would be a loser all day every day in front of a judge as they couldn’t prove you received the mail. I am sure that’s a scare tactic but never actually happens.

 

[Filthy]

You're kind of proving my point.

exactly.

the only people on a jury are the people too dumb to get out of it, or someone who WANTS to wield the power of a jury. And that's rarely to use the power of the jury to exonerate the accused.

 

[Never_Rolled]

People have been talking for years about having professional paid jurors to hear cases.

 

[Never_Rolled]

You also have the option to forego a jury of your peers and opt for a bench trial.

 

[Filthy]

People have been talking for years about having professional paid jurors to hear cases.

I think the State has enough employees in the the process already.

probably too many.

 

[Never_Rolled]

I think the State has enough employees in the the process already.

probably too many.

The govt. has never complained about being inefficient or having too much deadwood. That's what they do.

 

[Filthy]

The govt. has never complained about being inefficient or having too much deadwood. That's what they do.

i just think that there already enough people in a Decision chair who have a vested interest in growing the Criminal Justice budget and incarcerating as many people as possible.

 

[Never_Rolled]

i just think that there already enough people in a Decision chair who have a vested interest in growing the Criminal Justice budget and incarcerating as many people as possible.

Many in our society need to be incarcerated.

 

[Filthy]

Many in our society need to be incarcerated.

How do you explain that we incarcerate as many of our citizens as Russia and China combined?

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

exactly.

the only people on a jury are the people too dumb to get out of it, or someone who WANTS to wield the power of a jury. And that's rarely to use the power of the jury to exonerate the accused.

That wasn't at all my point. I'm more than likely going to do it and it has nothing to do with either of those statements.

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

People have been talking for years about having professional paid jurors to hear cases.

That's a horrendous idea.

 

[Never_Rolled]

How do you explain that we incarcerate as many of our citizens as Russia and China combined?

I don’t have to explain anything. I have no idea how their legal system works. People in those countries tend to disappear.

 

[Filthy]

That wasn't at all my point. I'm more than likely going to do it and it has nothing to do with either of those statements.

I believe in jury nullification, so I've been excused from every jury I've been summoned to.

but a lot of folks are like N @Never_Rolled, in that there's no incentive or consequence to serving, so they don't.
And we don't teach Civics any more.

 

[Hauler]

I always send a letter stating I don't have coverage at work. It's worked 3 times so far.

I'll be happy to go when I'm retired but who has time for that shit when they have a job?

 

[Filthy]

I don’t have to explain anything. I have no idea how their legal system works. People in those countries tend to disappear.

well, you said there was a need. Do we need to incarcerate 2.2M people?

 

[Never_Rolled]

well, you said there was a need. Do we need to incarcerate 2.2M people?

If they are guilty of violating the law and receive a prison sentence sure. You can’t put a number on it. That would be like me asking you what level of violence is acceptable to let some go free or not be sentenced. It is what it is. This prison thing seems to be a pet project of yours as of late. What brought all this on? Stats? You always struck me as a law and order guy so it just seems it bit odd.

 

[Filthy]

If they are guilty of violating the law and receive a prison sentence sure. You can’t put a number on it. That would be like me asking you what level of violence is acceptable to let some go free or not be sentenced. It is what it is. This prison thing seems to be a pet project of yours as of late. What brought all this on? Stats? You always struck me as a law and order guy so it just seems it bit odd.

I think we over-criminalize/over-incarcerate a lot of behaviors. And I think the playing field is highly-tilted in the favor of the State.

I don't think the State is doing this for the best interests of society, as much as they're doing it in the best interests of their contributors who work in the Prison Industry.

EDIT - Yes, I'm very Law & Order. But I'm even more "Equality Before the Law" and "Liberty >> Order" kind of guy.

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

I don't think the State is doing this for the best interests of society, as much as they're doing it in the best interests of their contributors who work in the Prison Industry.

You're not going down the private prison road, are you?