General Radio station pulls Baby, It's Cold Outside from airwaves, sparks internet firestorm

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  1. BirdWatcher

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    In the holiday classic, the woman says she wants to go home but the man pressures her to stay

    For decades it's been one of Christmastime's biggest hits — a track that contrasts the icy outdoors with the cozy warmth inside, and hints at holiday romance.

    But now a U.S. radio station has pulled Baby, It's Cold Outside from the airwaves, and the move has kicked off an internet firestorm.

    Cleveland's Star 102 (WDOK-FM), which bills itself as the city's "official Christmas music station," says the song, in which a woman is pressured to stay overnight at a man's house even after she says she needs to leave, is no longer appropriate — especially in the wake of the #MeToo movement.

    Others express concern that the line "Say, what's in this drink?" implies the woman's drink has been spiked

    "We used to play the song Baby, It's Cold Outside, but you're the Christmas Executive Officer at Star 102 and you told us it's no longer appropriate. I gotta be honest, I didn't understand why the lyrics were so bad... until I read them," wrote host Glenn Anderson on the Star 102 website.

    "Now, I do realize that when the song was written in 1944, it was a different time, but now while reading it, it seems very manipulative and wrong. The world we live in is extra sensitive now, and people get easily offended, but in a world where #MeToo has finally given women the voice they deserve, the song has no place."

    I ought to say no, no, no - Mind if I move in closer? / At least I'm gonna say that I tried - What's the sense in hurting my pride? / I really can't stay - Baby don't hold out / Ah, but it's cold outside- Lyrics from Baby, It's Cold Outside



    Then on December 4, several major Canadian broadcasters announced they would also pull the song, among them Bell Media, Rogers and CBC.

    "CBC Music will be pulling the song from its rotation as of midnight and has no plans to play it going forward," said CBC public affairs head Chuck Thompson.

    Frank Loesser first penned the track in 1944 for him to perform at parties with his wife, and later sold it to MGM, who used it in the classic 1949 movie Neptune's Daughter. In the film, Esther Williams and Ricardo Montalbán famously perform the song, which went on to win an Academy Award. (See video above.)

    The call-and-response duet has since been covered countless times, including by Ray Charles and Betty Carter, Idina Menzel and Michael Bublé (also Anne Murray and Michael Bublé), Rod Stewart and Dolly Parton, Lou Rawls and Dianne Reeves, Dean Martin and Martina McBride, Lady Antebellum, Holly Cole and many more.

    Since the station made the announcement that it would pull the song, the internet as been alight with comments, with some people applauding the move because they see the song as promoting date rape, while others argue that it's political correctness gone too far, and that the tune is about innocent flirtation and romance.

    Still others argue that in the song, the woman is conflicted but ultimately makes her own choice to stay, which is her prerogative.

    Radio station pulls Baby, It's Cold Outside from airwaves, sparks internet firestorm | CBC Radio
     
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    Lol just foolish, but radio is a dieing breed, help end their misery simply by turning them off.

    No need to support them and their warped views “
     
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    America has gone full retard.

    Somewhere in the middle of propagating 300 genders and going to public school half naked while watching porn in class on mandated chromebooks after being taught the golden rule, they're supposed to decifer what is & isn't socially acceptable, while countries bomb each other and Baby It's Cold Outside is taken off the airwaves and Huck Finn & To Kill a Mockingbird is pulled from school libraries.
     
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    I listened ti that song with my wife just now. She said it sounded date rapey, and Bill Cosby’ie.
     
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    Give her a divorce for christmas
     
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    Amazing Local Radio station a mile from my house...no commercials and really huge library of music...2 hour blocks of different music and cool ass Volunteer DJ's
    I might end up doing a Block myself someday
    Listener funded Radio...I pitch em a few hundred every year and we listen 6 nights of 7 as background music

    But yes the popular Radio Model of commercials and subpar content is dying...I don't listen to that crap
     
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    Let me know if you do a block. I will call in and give you mad props so you can turn it into a full time gig.
     
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    Thanks man
    they don't take calls on air though
    they do take requests via phone
    The station has a block for all types of music lovers...classic country...grateful dead...Bluegrass...Reggae(that is the one I have my eye on)...basically a block for each type of great genre...they don't have blocks for shit electronic music though...only good shit...
    midday they have student DJ's for a couple hours(it broadcasts out the back of of a local High School)

    Welcome to KRVM.org Public Radio in Eugene, Oregon they broadcast online....from 10 am to 3pm is the weaker blocks on weekdays...evenings are great and mornings and weekends are great also

    I also have won tickets to like 10 concerts from them...always having giveaways and I am pretty good with Trivia about certain Genres

    Listener powered radio baby!
     
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    I always joked that it was a rapey kind of song, but LOL @ a radio station taking it off the air.

    Time for everyone to fake rage at the radio station about how this is their favorite song ever and they just lost a listener for life.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Well, I left out VH3 because fuck that album. And I omitted A Different Kind of Truth because Van Halen isn't Van Halen without Michael Anthony.
     
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    sounds fun
    some great songs in there
     
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    Listen again. Pretty much the whole song is a woman who wants to fuck being concerned about what others will think of her if she does it.
     
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    They could have easily just stopped playing it and it would have been over and done with. But they made a thing out of it and some idiot in marketing was probably thinking that it would earn them some feminist brownie points and now it's created a shit storm.

    So that's neat.
     
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    What's your favorite Christmas song?

    Mine is the one where the guy wants to celebrate the birth of Jesus by getting a chick drunk, convincing her to stay the night and fuck like rabbits even though she's really worried about what her uptight friends will say about her being a little slutty and giving it up to Fred in accounting on their first date.
     
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    willthiswork dude is right on the money
     
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    My wife loves that song. Such a slut.
     
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    not about the song choice-- I meant about the radio guy sucking up to the carpet munching feminists thing. my favorite song is the one with Bing and the Andrew Sisters-- Mele Kalikimaka
     
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    I was going to click agree, as it's my wifes favorite too. But I didn't want you to think I was calling your wife a slut.
     
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    The timeless art of seduction.
     
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    what's wrong with being a slut?
     
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    just remembered-- my favorite is: Grandma got runover by a Reindeer
     
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