General "Red-headed 13 year-old assault child snatches up bolt-action at gun-crazed gunshow

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SongExotic2

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Cliffs?


I bet it's a spud gun.


Did I tell you my story about a spud gun?
 

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I was posting in another thread... a disproportionate number of dealers make up a high number of problem guns (1% dealers for 60% of crime guns. 5% dealers for 90% of crime guns)

Around 20% of gun transactions are done private to private, without an FFL doing a background check.

I personally own a gun that I bought from a private individual at a gun show. An ASSAULT WEAPON at that. It still probably shouldn't happen. An FFL can easily setup a laptop at a gun show and you could walk over and do the transaction for 20 bucks.

We should have universal background checks as a foundation to improving who gets guns. Then the background system needs to actually be improved to effectively work, otherwise you get stuff like Sutherland Springs anyways.
 

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Not sure what this has to do with "Real Sports" with Bryant Gumble, but the agenda is as thinly veiled as Agenda 21.

In each of the situations above, a child is doing something illegal in itself, with camera's and producers around.
Each one: Gambling, pornography, alcohol, etc. are considered in themselves illegal or "sinful" acts, where the responsible adult is the seller, therefore liable. The crime was just committed.
Here's the contrast.

The boy at the gunshow is being sold to, with adults behind him, the implication being they are the responsible party of a legal act.
The gun is not a crime, the boy is not a crime.
If the boy decides that instead of plinking tin cans in the wilderness, or shooting rabbits for dinner, he wants to load up a .308 round and put it inside a human being's brain, it's at that point we not only question the boy, his parents family, town and state, but the country in which he lives.
Then, the issue is dealt with through legal proceeding and likely, legislation.

This is the dilemma, we're in, that instead of looking in the mirror, the program being aired, it's producers, and it's entire agenda, is trying to make a point with their worldview inside someone else's world.

It's the moral equivalent of going to a village off the coast of Madagascar and jailing someone for eating lemurs.

This is the perfect example of why the electoral college presides over the popular vote in the United States.

Before assuming too much, I'd like to know the context surrounding this video, as it sure seems like it's being painted with a broad brush on an index card.
It's Jim Jeffries'esque.
 
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Not sure what this has to do with "Real Sports" with Bryant Gumble, but the agenda is as thinly veiled as Agenda 21.

In each of the situations above, a child is doing something illegal in itself, with camera's and producers around.
Each one: Gambling, pornography, alcohol, etc. are considered in themselves illegal or "sinful" acts, where the responsible adult is the seller, therefore liable. The crime was just committed.
Here's the contrast.

The boy at the gunshow is being sold to, with adults behind him, the implication being they are the responsible party of a legal act.
The gun is not a crime, the boy is not a crime.
If the boy decides that instead of plinking tin cans in the wilderness, or shooting rabbits for dinner, he wants to load up a .308 round and put it inside a human being's brain, it's at that point we not only question the boy, his parents family, town and state, but the country in which he lives.
Then, the issue is dealt with through legal proceeding and likely, legislation.

This is the dilemma, we're in, that instead of looking in the mirror, the program being aired, it's producers, and it's entire agenda, is trying to make a point with their worldview inside someone else's world.

It's the moral equivalent of going to a village off the coast of Madagascar and jailing someone for eating lemurs.

This is the perfect example of why the electoral college presides over the popular vote in the United States.

Before assuming too much, I'd like to know the context surrounding this video, as it sure seems like it's being painted with a broad brush on an index card.
It's Jim Jeffries'esque.

I actually read all of that. Good points.

You should be proud...Normally anything over a paragraph and I'm out.
 

sparkuri

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I was posting in another thread... a disproportionate number of dealers make up a high number of problem guns (1% dealers for 60% of crime guns. 5% dealers for 90% of crime guns)

Around 20% of gun transactions are done private to private, without an FFL doing a background check.

I personally own a gun that I bought from a private individual at a gun show. An ASSAULT WEAPON at that. It still probably shouldn't happen. An FFL can easily setup a laptop at a gun show and you could walk over and do the transaction for 20 bucks.

We should have universal background checks as a foundation to improving who gets guns. Then the background system needs to actually be improved to effectively work, otherwise you get stuff like Sutherland Springs anyways.
You have an Assault Weapon?
Weren't those made illegal at the federal level in 1986?
 

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For a true comparison, they should have sent the boy into a retail store like Dicks or Bass Pro. He would have been denied the same as the other "tests".

Admission into those gun shows requires a guardian, so I think it was assumed his dad was likely the dude standing over his shoulder.

And it was a bolt action .22
Without ammunition.
 

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You have an Assault Weapon?
Weren't those made illegal at the federal level in 1986?
Nope.

Assault Rifles were made limited to existing stock without appropriate FFL licensure and transfer of existing stock requires Class 3 licensing of the individuals.

Don't rough me up on semantics sparkuri @sparkuri.

I meant ASSAULT WEAPON. :p
 

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Nope.

Assault Rifles were made limited to existing stock without appropriate FFL licensure and transfer of existing stock requires Class 3 licensing of the individuals.

Don't rough me up on semantics sparkuri @sparkuri.

I meant ASSAULT WEAPON. :p
I'm still not getting it.
You can't buy an assault weapon at any "gun show".
You have to have it delivered after classification checks(assuming you've passed) by ATF and stored in an ATF type 20 or 54 approved magazine/storage.
 

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You have an Assault Weapon?
Weren't those made illegal at the federal level in 1986?
Define assault weapon please?

As far as I know all guns fire bullets forward. Unless we are talking about a mini gun or a 50 Cal machine gun which would be useful in an assault
 

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Define assault weapon please?

As far as I know all guns fire bullets forward. Unless we are talking about a mini gun or a 50 Cal machine gun which would be useful in an assault
Stocks aside, selective fire to start.
Simply put, you've got a switch for 3-round bursts to full auto.
What the military and swat teams have.
 

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I was posting in another thread... a disproportionate number of dealers make up a high number of problem guns (1% dealers for 60% of crime guns. 5% dealers for 90% of crime guns)

Around 20% of gun transactions are done private to private, without an FFL doing a background check.

I personally own a gun that I bought from a private individual at a gun show. An ASSAULT WEAPON at that. It still probably shouldn't happen. An FFL can easily setup a laptop at a gun show and you could walk over and do the transaction for 20 bucks.

We should have universal background checks as a foundation to improving who gets guns. Then the background system needs to actually be improved to effectively work, otherwise you get stuff like Sutherland Springs anyways.
I would agree, but to a point. There has to be a safeguard against the government retaining a registry, by design or access, for tracking firearm purchases. I just don't feel like the state should have access to that info.

And I think you have to fix the background checks first, or what's the point of pushing more data in to a non-functional system? Despite all the rhetoric about private transactions, trying to fight that war is going to be less productive than the War on Drugs/Prostitution/et al, and incredibly prone to violence and death.