Reneau plans appeal of sketchy decision loss

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Marion Reneau's fight will continue after the final bell.

The UFC women's bantamweight contender plans on appealing her controversial, split decision loss to Ashlee Evans-Smith from UFC Fight Night: Cowboy vs. Cowboy on Sunday in Pittsburgh with the Pennsylvania Athletic Commission.

Reneau won the first round rather clearly. She rocked Evans-Smith against the cage with a right hand early on and landed hard punches after that. Then, late in the round, Reneau cinched in a tight guillotine choke. Evans-Smith was in danger of being finished when the horn sounded to end the frame.

In between those two events, Evans-Smith did not mount any significant offense. Yet, two judges -- Phil Rogers and Andrew Adkins -- scored the round for Evans-Smith. Reneau believes that one or both of those judges got her and Evans-Smith mixed up because it was so outlandish that any judge scored that first round for Evans-Smith.

"I just don't think they had the right person," Reneau said. "They're not going to own up to that mistake. They're just not. It's just gonna be one of those things that I'm gonna have to swallow and it's painful to swallow.

"For obvious reasons, Ashlee did not win the first round and two judges gave her the first round. I don't know. I swear to you, I do not know what they were watching."

LINK: Marion Reneau plans appeal of sketchy decision loss to Ashlee Evans-Smith
 

Ted Williams' head

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Sep 23, 2015
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The first round was CLEARLY hers and the judges need to explain how the fuck they scored that one for Ashlee.

Rounds 2 and 3 were toss ups though, so I don't have a problem with the decision.

Reneau took her foot off the gas, so she has no one to blame but herself.
 

Sweets

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Great idea if everyone kicked up a stink less would get fucked, I hope she goes all out.
 

Robbie Hart

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Didn't watch but from above if you take you foot off the gas, deal with it.

Enough of this, "maybe they mixed us up". I can understand the question "what were they watching?" as most judges deliver these weird scores
 

Jehannum

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lol come on you pour your entire existence into performing and the judges tell you that you can't win a round even if you dominate it and nearly finish your opponent? that's deserving of an axe in the face let alone a few complaints.
 

PeteyParker

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Round 1 was Reneau
Round 2 was close (either way)
Round 3 was Ashley

Reneau seems to be going the way of Masvidal. Reneau should improve and add a 3rd dimension to her game like Brooks or Porier. Being predictable is not good in a ever evolving sport.
 

Sweets

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Didn't watch but from above if you take you foot off the gas, deal with it.

Enough of this, "maybe they mixed us up". I can understand the question "what were they watching?" as most judges deliver these weird scores
She got robbed dawg.
 

Robbie Hart

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She got robbed dawg.
Dog (avatar), leave it in the hands of morons and one should expect to see whacky shit. What about that one tuf fight where the fighters went to a 3rd round and mazzagati (laughed as Dana walked out bitching in his way out before the end) took a point from the one fighter which, in a real world meant it was over, HOWEVER, he lost due to a judge basically giving the penalised guy a 10-7 round.....I have to look it up but it was hilarious.
 

Sweets

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Sweets @Sweets this was the call, mazzagati called an illegal elbow and took a point without a warning and yet, the guy in blue (illegal elbow distributor) won the decision......it was hilarious, Dana was changing in his room when they came in and he was more livid/amazed.


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=etBdVncU_LA
I actually binge watched that series, horrible officiating all round in that fight. Still Renau is right to appeal.
 

Robbie Hart

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I actually binge watched that series, horrible officiating all round in that fight. Still Renau is right to appeal.
Then surely we have to ask masvidal who lost to raging al, Matt Hamill who lost to Bisping, for sure Brandon Vera vs couture, Hendricks vs st Pierre and on and on we go........it's like balls and strikes in baseball, if you argue you get thrown out.
 

Sweets

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Then surely we have to ask masvidal who lost to raging al, Matt Hamill who lost to Bisping, for sure Brandon Vera vs couture, Hendricks vs st Pierre and on and on we go........it's like balls and strikes in baseball, if you argue you get thrown out.
If all of those were brought to appeal the system might be slightly better. Might not be either but I'd rather try.
 

LurkenLikaGherkin

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Round 1 was Reneau
Round 2 was close (either way)
Round 3 was Ashley

Reneau seems to be going the way of Masvidal. Reneau should improve and add a 3rd dimension to her game like Brooks or Porier. Being predictable is not good in a ever evolving sport.
You can't equivalence R1 with R3 and expect people to just nod along. R1 was a near finish, with little other significant action. R3 was like a 10-9.5 round and could be scored either way.

Really the best explanation for two judges giving Ashley the 1st is that they got the fighters mixed up.

The third judge, the only one that scored R1 correctly, came up with a score of 29-27, which would have seemed totally bizarre to any one familiar with scoring, let alone a judge. How the fuck do you come up with a 29-27 in a fight with no point deductions? That's easy, if you can't add. Any competent judge would have known they'd added incorrectly based on the total impossibiility of a 29-27 score, just by glancing at the numbers.

The judges were obviously incompetent.

But that won't likely help Renau.
 

PeteyParker

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You can't equivalence R1 with R3 and expect people to just nod along. R1 was a near finish, with little other significant action. R3 was like a 10-9.5 round and could be scored either way.

Really the best explanation for two judges giving Ashley the 1st is that they got the fighters mixed up.

The third judge, the only one that scored R1 correctly, came up with a score of 29-27, which would have seemed totally bizarre to any one familiar with scoring, let alone a judge. How the fuck do you come up with a 29-27 in a fight with no point deductions? That's easy, if you can't add. Any competent judge would have known they'd added incorrectly based on the total impossibiility of a 29-27 score, just by glancing at the numbers.

The judges were obviously incompetent.

But that won't likely help Renau.
The current scoring system is so flawed. I do thinks some rounds should have a 0.5 difference, instead of just 10-9 but it's almost impossible to come up with a perfect scoring system. We need changes though.
 
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I was cooking during this fight with the sound up so I would have to watch. I do agree that the scoring system fucks up some fights from time to time.
 

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I watched this fight from beginning to end....Reneau won clearly.

I didn't even wait for the announcement haha so this is shocking.
 

Zeph

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She should appeal this was a stone cold robbery. I hope PAC can recognize that.
 

Zeph

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Round 1 was Reneau
Round 2 was close (either way)
Round 3 was Ashley

Reneau seems to be going the way of Masvidal. Reneau should improve and add a 3rd dimension to her game like Brooks or Porier. Being predictable is not good in a ever evolving sport.
2 judges gave Ashley the first round. The first, where she was nearly knocked down and finished in a tight choke. Ridiculous. It was a 10-8 round.