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Cody

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I wasn't calling for him to be convicted. Clearly, at the point where he pulled the trigger, it was reasonable for him to fear for his life.

Who here is calling him a white supremacist?

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Go look in the civil unrest megathread. There were a bunch of dipshits calling him a racist killer etc.

This whole thing has been a waste of money he should have never been tried. It was obvious the next day when I watched the footage and more obvious when more info came out. But the left wing echo chambers only had one narrative and that influenced half the country to believe something false
 

Cody

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Jun 13, 2016
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You suddenly care about "being lied to", and you think that lies in the service of political propaganda are a BAD thing?

When did that start?

How come it only seems to apply to one side of the political spectrum, and not both?

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Name all the lies you think I've believed from the right wing media

Make a nice accurate list
 

John Lee Pettimore

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May 18, 2021
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Name all the lies you think I've believed from the right wing media

Make a nice accurate list
Can you point me to an example of you criticising any right wing media network or personality for any lie they told?

Even one?

Like, for example, the lie that Biden didn't win the election?

I have a whole 200+ post thread about woke Twitter bullshit.

Can you point me to one single post where you explicitly criticise any right wing media outlet, media personality or politician for telling a lie?

Not even saying you can't. I am genuinely curious. ๐Ÿ‘

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Cody

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Jun 13, 2016
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Can you point me to an example of you criticising any right wing media network or personality for any lie they told?

Even one?

Like, for example, the lie that Biden didn't win the election?

I have a whole 200+ post thread about woke Twitter bullshit.

Can you point me to one single post where you explicitly criticise any right wing media outlet, media personality or politician for telling a lie?

Not even saying you can't. I am genuinely curious. ๐Ÿ‘

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Ive criticized everyone but imo the left has these nonstop lies they push to deflect from whatever is currently happening (Russian collusion, crime, border). They will instead write a trump article or push covid fear.

This week I'll give them credit they have talked about the out of control crime in liberal cities. I think it's because they see how bad they have been polling and it should be because of how bad their policies are failing. I think its only the vote that counts.

Dont get me wrong I'm not a fan of these fat old white guys on fox either
 

John Lee Pettimore

Further south than you
May 18, 2021
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Ive criticized everyone but imo the left has these nonstop lies they push to deflect from whatever is currently happening (Russian collusion, crime, border). They will instead write a trump article or push covid fear.

This week I'll give them credit they have talked about the out of control crime in liberal cities. I think it's because they see how bad they have been polling and it should be because of how bad their policies are failing. I think its only the vote that counts.

Dont get me wrong I'm not a fan of these fat old white guys on fox either
So that's a "no", then.

Can you provide an example of, for example, you criticising the last YEAR of NONSTOP lies about the election, from virtually the entire right wing establishment, starting from the top down?

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John Lee Pettimore

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May 18, 2021
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I orginally asked if you to name the lies I believed from right ring sources. I'm not going to have you flip that question and expect me to provide proof of something afterwards
You reckon you're pretty consistent in your criticism.

I'm not so sure about that.

You can't in good faith claim that the Democrats and the "leftist" (in reality centre-right corporatist) media, have more of a problem with lying than the American right does. Sorry, you just can't realistically claim that.

Okay, I'll ask you a question about what you think.

Do you accept Trump and the GOP's lies about the election?

If "no", then what are your thoughts on the GOP's unified and constant lying about it, from the former President on down? WITHOUT immediately pivoting to talk about the left, please?

I'm not even trying to be a dick here. I genuinely want to know if you think this is a problem. And if so, how big a problem.

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MMAHAWK

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Feb 5, 2015
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Can you point me to an example of you criticising any right wing media network or personality for any lie they told?

Even one?

Like, for example, the lie that Biden didn't win the election?

I have a whole 200+ post thread about woke Twitter bullshit.

Can you point me to one single post where you explicitly criticise any right wing media outlet, media personality or politician for telling a lie?

Not even saying you can't. I am genuinely curious. ๐Ÿ‘

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Wow now youโ€™re just posting the same thing multiple times in a single post. Solid evolution
 

Cody

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Jun 13, 2016
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Okay, I'll ask you a question about what you think.

Do you accept Trump and the GOP's lies about the election?

If "no", then what are your thoughts on the GOP's unified and constant lying about it, from the former President on down? WITHOUT immediately pivoting to talk about the left, please?

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I've answered this many times previously

I dont believe it was stolen as in chinese ballots or something like that

There was an argument at the time of the election about voting days and times. Afaik only the state legislators can decide voting days. Due to covid this was overruled by federal judges and the days extended and many other variations done state by state.

This is my only gripe and I dont know if it equals a stolen election.
 

KYLE RITTENHOUSE

I'm Guilty as Fuck
Nov 14, 2019
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I've answered this many times previously

I dont believe it was stolen as in chinese ballots or something like that

There was an argument at the time of the election about voting days and times. Afaik only the state legislators can decide voting days. Due to covid this was overruled by federal judges and the days extended and many other variations done state by state.

This is my only gripe and I dont know if it equals a stolen election.

It doesn't.

Hope that helps kid.
 

John Lee Pettimore

Further south than you
May 18, 2021
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I've answered this many times previously

I dont believe it was stolen as in chinese ballots or something like that

There was an argument at the time of the election about voting days and times. Afaik only the state legislators can decide voting days. Due to covid this was overruled by federal judges and the days extended and many other variations done state by state.

This is my only gripe and I dont know if it equals a stolen election.
I don't think you're a MAGA cultist.

I'd like to know what you think about the mainstream Conservative party pushing the big lie from the top down.

You don't like lies from the left, fair enough. I point out and criticise a lot of that shit myself. But objectively, the problem is FAR worse on the GOP side. What are your thoughts on that, and can you point to an example of you directly criticising the GOP or the likes of Tucker Carlson for a specific one of their lies? ๐Ÿ‘

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John Lee Pettimore

Further south than you
May 18, 2021
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Tried in the court of public/ Press opinion, guilty.

Tried in an actual court, not guilty. And not on some technicality.
This is not some travesty of justice.

I think the relatively mute rioting is a result of it. I think a lot of people who thought he was some crazed killer changed that opinion as the evidence was laid out.
Yep, pretty much.

I think Rittenhouse is a prick and an idiot. But a murderer? Clearly not, on the evidence presented in open court.

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Pak protector

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May 16, 2021
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Yep, pretty much.

I think Rittenhouse is a prick and an idiot. But a murderer? Clearly not, on the evidence presented in open court.

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I think it's worth pointing out as often as possible that everybody there was an idiot.
Just a mess of hooligans and ne'er do wells, weirdos, and ragamuffins.
 

Cody

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Jun 13, 2016
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I don't think you're a MAGA cultist.

I'd like to know what you think about the mainstream Conservative party pushing the big lie from the top down.

You don't like lies from the left, fair enough. I point out and criticise a lot of that shit myself. But objectively, the problem is FAR worse on the GOP side. What are your thoughts on that, and can you point to an example of you directly criticising the GOP or the likes of Tucker Carlson for a specific one of their lies? ๐Ÿ‘

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I disagree that the right spews more lies. Maybe I dont watch enough news. I read articles and see a few clips
 

John Lee Pettimore

Further south than you
May 18, 2021
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I disagree that the right spews more lies. Maybe I dont watch enough news. I read articles and see a few clips
Trump is going to run again, and the near-unified GOP stance is going to be that Biden was not the fair and lawful winner of the last election. Republican officials who refuse to go along with this lie are being purged from the party nationwide at every level from the top down.

That by itself is far, far worse than anything coming from the left.

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Filthy

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Jun 28, 2016
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Yes, but that's not reaching the standard of legal guilt. In the moment, it was reasonable that he feared for his life and needed to act to defend himself.

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agree with reasonable to use it when someone attacks you, but if the weapon was provocation then why weren't there any other instances of vigilante violence?
 

Cody

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Jun 13, 2016
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Trump is going to run again, and the near-unified GOP stance is going to be that Biden was not the fair and lawful winner of the last election.

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I disagree. They will say "everything we told you would happen under biden has happened" and they would be right

During trump it was lowest unemployment, lower taxes, higher earning, cheaper gas, stocked shelves and no overflowing borders. I'm sure I missed a ton of shit.

Covid fucked up trumps last year. That's all had dems against him. Biden hasn't built back anything better. Hes actually broken down a few things

Republicans won't even have to mention the 2020 election but I'm sure that's all the dems will talk about because they literally have no other strong point
 

Lars (ADMlN)

Formerly 'Lars'
Oct 17, 2015
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You reckon you're pretty consistent in your criticism.

I'm not so sure about that.

You can't in good faith claim that the Democrats and the "leftist" (in reality centre-right corporatist) media, have more of a problem with lying than the American right does. Sorry, you just can't realistically claim that.

Okay, I'll ask you a question about what you think.

Do you accept Trump and the GOP's lies about the election?

If "no", then what are your thoughts on the GOP's unified and constant lying about it, from the former President on down? WITHOUT immediately pivoting to talk about the left, please?

I'm not even trying to be a dick here. I genuinely want to know if you think this is a problem. And if so, how big a problem.

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Ask him about when he thought he had Hunterโ€™s child porn collection and was posting samples on the open forums

:)
 

Cody

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Jun 13, 2016
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Ask him about when he thought he had Hunterโ€™s child porn collection and was posting samples on the open forums

:)
My favorite were the family's text messages talking about hunter walking around naked smoking crack infront of family. Are you going to watch hunters new movie?
Gina carano is supposed to be in it