VID Rogan & Schaub discuss why Dana was wrong about sponsors

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Ministry of Silly Walks

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schaub type people are part of the problem. he's popular enough to have people listen, but he'd rather suck dick than to show how wrong dana is. i haven't heard any fighters say they liked this deal, but a lot of them said it was shit.
 

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schaub type people are part of the problem. he's popular enough to have people listen, but he'd rather suck dick than to show how wrong dana is. i haven't heard any fighters say they liked this deal, but a lot of them said it was shit.
It's a tough situation. I don't fault Schaub for not speaking out against it but I would have liked to see him at least stand up for himself a bit. I understand not wanting to rock the ship.
 

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It's a tough situation. I don't fault Schaub for not speaking out against it but I would have liked to see him at least stand up for himself a bit. I understand not wanting to rock the ship.
the more the fighters bend over for the ufc, the worse it will get. they won't fire the popular fighters, so he has no need to worry. he should think of it this way, taking a stand now, will be good for the fighters of the ufc. the ufc has their sponsors plastered everywhere, so no, this deal won't make it look more professional, or make it better for the fighters.
 

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Dana never has anyone call him on his bullshit. MMA media is afraid of having their credentials pulled. The fighters are scared shitless they'll be fired and publicly ridiculed. National sports media outlets aren't going to dedicate their best resources (Pat Forde, Jeff Goodman, Pete Thamel, etc) to cover MMA and Zuffa probably wouldn't credential them if they did, because Dana would be forced to answer tough questions. So basically, Dana has carte blanche to continue fabricating the narrative to fit his agenda.
 

sparkuri

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Dana is such an immature prick.
I'd give my life savings to see him exposed and shamed on the world stage.

Some people know OF him, and like him.
Some people know of him and don't.
Most people who know him extensively where ideology pervades fear of his overreaching power can't stand him.

I'm just grateful I'm in no situation where I'm underneath him, or would be forced to do something drastic in retaliation for the persecution that accompany's the movement of his mouth.
 
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Dana is such an immature prick.
I'd give my life savings to see him exposed and shamed on the world stage.

Some people know OF him, and like him.
Some people know of him and don't.
Most people who know him extensively where ideology pervades fear of his overreaching power can't stand him.

I'm just grateful I'm in no situation where I'm underneath him, or would be forced to do something drastic in retaliation for the persecution that accompany's the movement of his mouth.
Dana definitely deserves a plate of hot justice.
 

Darqnezz

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"The mat never lies" is an old saying in BJJ. Seems to be 100% accurate in this case, & I can't say I expected anything different from Schaub. He showed his true colors at Metamoris 2. He plays it safe, & doesn't stick his neck out.
 

lookoutawhale

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A lot of the blame should also fall on the Fertittas as well. Actually most of it since they are the ones that make the decisions and Dana is simply the face of it. They play good cop and let Dana play bad cop and take all the blame.

Sucks that the sport is run like some cartel where no one wants to speak up for fear of reprisal as the grass roots level. But then again it doesnt help when the face of the company acts like a teenager with emotional outbursts and firing people in the press like some dictator.

I dont blame Shaub. He doesnt want to lost his job. Neither does the media people either that don't want to ask bad questions and get their presses pulled or the websites that dont want to rock the boat with dana too, or the fightes that dont want to get caught trying to form a union.

hope the court discovery changes all of this.
 

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A lot of the blame should also fall on the Fertittas as well. Actually most of it since they are the ones that make the decisions and Dana is simply the face of it. They play good cop and let Dana play bad cop and take all the blame.
Agree.
 

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i can't wait until contracts start to end, and fighters choose to leave. the ufc has the right to match, but sponsorship money will play a big roll in getting these fighters out of that.
 

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Yeah, that was pretty cringe worthy to watch.
You know, I'm not too sure. The looks between Rogan and Schaub, the way it got brought up, and the fact Bryan Callen was going on about this on the fighter and the kid as well, make it seem a little orchestrated to me. I think Schaub has talked to them before hand, and agreed to have these conversations and asked his friends to speak out against Dana, while remaining respectful himself. Allowing him to get his side of the story out.

While this is going on he can sit there denouncing speaking out against Dana and covering his own ass from getting fired or some other retribution. I think he handled it fairly well, it isn't easy to take a shit on your boss, but having your friends do it, publicly, whom are significantly more insulated from retribution, gets your message across, while also protecting your own interests.

Everyone knows Dana was either lying or severely misinformed, the UFC know Schuab's upset but willing to play ball, and he didn't have to slag off the face of the company directly. It was a difficult situation for Schaub, but I think this is the best possible solution he could have worked out.
 
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You know, I'm not too sure. The looks between Rogan and Schaub, the way it got brought up, and the fact Bryan Callen was going on about this on the fighter and the kid as well, make it seem a little orchestrated to me. I think Schaub has talked to them before hand, and agreed to have these conversations and asked his friends to speak out against Dana, while remaining respectful himself. Allowing him to get his side of the story out.

While this is going on he can sit there denouncing speaking out against Dana and covering his own ass from getting fired or some other retribution. I think he handled it fairly well, it isn't easy to take a shit on your boss, but having your friends do it, publicly, whom are significantly more insulated from retribution, gets your message across, while also protecting your own interests.

Everyone knows Dana was either lying or severely misinformed, the UFC know Schuab's upset but willing to play ball, and he didn't have to slag off the face of the company directly. It was a difficult situation for Schaub, but I think this is the best possible solution he could have worked out.
Hmmm interesting...
 

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You know, I'm not too sure. The looks between Rogan and Schaub, the way it got brought up, and the fact Bryan Callen was going on about this on the fighter and the kid as well, make it seem a little orchestrated to me. I think Schaub has talked to them before hand, and agreed to have these conversations and asked his friends to speak out against Dana, while remaining respectful himself. Allowing him to get his side of the story out.

While this is going on he can sit there denouncing speaking out against Dana and covering his own ass from getting fired or some other retribution. I think he handled it fairly well, it isn't easy to take a shit on your boss, but having your friends do it, publicly, whom are significantly more insulated from retribution, gets your message across, while also protecting your own interests.

Everyone knows Dana was either lying or severely misinformed, the UFC know Schuab's upset but willing to play ball, and he didn't have to slag off the face of the company directly. It was a difficult situation for Schaub, but I think this is the best possible solution he could have worked out.

Zeph, I love your posts, but sometimes a chair is just a chair even when there's no one sitting there.