They use the threat of labelling anyone who criticizes them as 'anti-Semites', which usually shuts most people up.
They just did it to David Icke and he's now banned from visiting Australia with his lecture tour.
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They use the threat of labelling anyone who criticizes them as 'anti-Semites', which usually shuts most people up.
They just did it to David Icke and he's now banned from visiting Australia with his lecture tour.
I think so...not familiar with much of this stuff honestly
I do know Deception is a very useful tool
I judge people independently, so the labels are superficial to me
I'm not sure. Ilhan Omar certainly paid the price just for saying "all about the Benjamins baby." Globalism is a tough one because if you sit and talk with someone who uses the term globalist and ask them to unpack it, it's usually just a few minutes before they say something antisemitic.
As far as Zionism, I think it's little understood, even, or maybe especially by people like Bibi who claim to represent it.
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I feel like theres better posters than ever and I like all the members even the trolls. I just dont like the pussies. The pussies that whine bitch and complain about peoples opinions on politics or race or whatever. Especially GSP fans who are delusional
These little crybabys ruin the forum but i dont ignore them
Which MoD did this?
MoD lays flowers at graves of Sergei Skripal's relatives as he cannot go himself
MoD lays flowers at graves of Sergei Skripal's relatives as he cannot go himself
MoD lays flowers at graves of Sergei Skripal's relatives as he cannot go himself
MoD lays flowers at graves of Sergei Skripal's relatives as he cannot go himself
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Different strokes for different folks.
I ignore people, you don't.
You smoke flakka, I don't.
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I think we can all agree that if I did rule the world, it would be a way better place. EspeciallyI know one and a half Jews on this forum in @Lars and@Priziesthorse.
Now these two gentlemen are MANY things (Lars a mental retard, Priziesthorse a closet bisexual), but neither of them wants to control the world.
@Kneeblock, he studied it at university
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Go on...
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you should check out some david icke vids.i think you would enjoy them. some are pretty far out and some of the older ones are about reptilians but there are a lot of ones about the moon and saturn and agenda21/2030 satanic pedophiles control the world etc. it has to be taken with a grain of salt but it is good entertainment
You’re not on ignore. I’d like to reconcile with you.
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How are gonna reconcile when you're still spending every night at the bar where you met her!!!
I don't think of Bibi or most of Likud as Zionists. I feel they've subverted the Zionist project, which was one of assertion of identity and protection from harm. The revisionism they had to engage in to make Zionism a harder political tool has made the ideology more about exclusion than protection. The revisionists were an offshoot group. I guess you can argue that without their hard line and departure from the rest of Zionism, there may have been no state of Israel, but their marginalization of other Zionist voices and autocratic governance, especially under Bibi, has more or less totally undermined the foundations of the Zionist project.
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Globalism complaints brought us WTO riots. That wasn't about antisemitism. Globalism complaints in the neo-right have typical intersection with strong proponents of Israel and a narrative of anger at tangible or intangible loss of nation-state sovereignty in the face of natural and/or intentional global intertwining. In both cases there seems to be an absence of antisemitism or even pro Jewish positioning.
The subsect of " 'globalist Jews' controlling X " crowd is tiny and noisy but hardly has a monopoly on these terms. Not even in recent history.
Likewise Zionism has been a non-loaded word throughout the 90s and 2000s by mainstream left in differentiating condemnation of Israels expansion policies from condemnation of Jews, or Israelis, at large. Zionism used to focus they they aren't against Jews.
Ilhan Omar suggested Jewish lobbying controls USA policy at large. That wasn't just about word Zionism = "those Jews!!".
I guess my point, as someone not tuned for 'dog whistles' it's hard for me to take the OP as anything than a broad brush against terms that have/had common distinct uses. Calling everyone anti-semetic that says Zionism is bad or just moving on with globalism is a code word, seems to be silencing critics of these movements as much as anything.
What other words do I use to capture the Israeli movement that believes in israel as a Jewish state with historical borders reclaimed? Or the centralizing of various policies globally through acquiescing roles, implementation, and punishments that have historically belonged to nation-state governments?
If we are going to recode words for fear of ambiguity or offense, neutral summary words should be proffered.
The video feels like someone fear mongering to a certain point, but it also accidentally empowers these fringe anti Jew groups. The same way Katy Perry's (and others) Pepe was sacrificed to 4chan racists...and empowered them.
I think the wording here gets clumsy. The WTO protests were against globalization, not globalism. Globalization is a specific set of political economic policies that include the practices of NAFTA, GATT, the WTO, and other acronyms that came out of the 90s. Globalism, meanwhile, has always had a historical valence that is linked to antisemitism. Globalization was pilloried by the libertarian right and the socialist left from Seattle onward, but gradually on the right especially globalism has been substituted, and I don't think that's coincidental. "Globalism" is almost always deployed in reference to a vague ideological agenda involving elites versus ostensibly local common Volk. Often when pressed these supposed elites are invariably overpopulated by Jews or sometimes use thinly coded associations, e.g. to Hollywood, lawyers, accountants, etc. I don't think everyone who uses the term is antisemitic, but it has a charged history and it's deployment into mainstream discourse is not at all accidental. It takes away from substantive critiques of the policies of globalization, often framing them as inevitable structural shifts, and instead makes a nebulous ideology that can be used on one hand to critique international finance or on another to critique international climate accords. It's part of old hostilities to internationalism, usually channeled through populist rhetoric.
Do you feel modern use of 'populism', that has always been the common vs elite, is also coded?
What non loaded words would you use to describe the various policies as above?
Support of nation-state government over international govenrment.
Differentiating expansionist israel movement from Israel/Jews-at-large?
I've seen people try to say they support nationalism...but that also falls to loaded rhetoric if I am to consider the history.
never really heard or seen much of him
agenda 21 is legit no doubt IMO
rest of those topics I am still digesting
he covers quite a bit of legit govt and UN shit but it is mixed in with some pretty out there stuff too. he gets pretty esoteric and new age at points . he is super popular and does 3 hour live presentations at welbly stadium and oxford. but then again sometimes i just like to get stoned and hear about how the moon is a hollowed out death star that was towed into our orbit by ancient aliens and used as a forward operating base
I ws just joking lars...I got no ill will towards juice
aHAH! But it IS THE (((JEWS))) !
They literally control everything. The banks, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, Hollywood. They invented the world Anti-Semite so you can't call them out on anything.
Have you guys read the Talmud? It's fucked up.
They literally control everything. The banks, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, Hollywood. They invented the world Anti-Semite so you can't call them out on anything.
Have you guys read the Talmud? It's fucked up.